A practical Guide and Expectations for 24/7 Cock Cage Wearing

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    As many men, I have also fantasized about being caged for a long time. However, there is a vast difference between fantasy, porn, wearing a cock cage for 2 hours at the romantic dinner, and wearing a cock cage 24/7. Wearing a cock cage 24/7 and going to work with it, gym, kid’s sports events, swimming, and sleeping in it is very different. There are several good realistic guides on the internet, but I would like to share my perspective and hopefully it will help others that would like to embark on this interesting and exiting journey.

    I have a fantastic wife keyholder and for us a cock cage and my chastity is not about me not having an orgasm for a long time. For us, chastity is that I can only orgasm when and how she wants. It removes all my masturbation and I can only have an erection and an orgasm with her permission. I might go without an orgasm for a week or just a day. It all depends on her as it should be. A cock cage in our relationship means I have (perhaps) less frequent, but definitely much stronger orgasm. We want to play this game long term and that requires I can safely and comfortably wear a cock cage 24/7/365. However, we are also life partners with family, friends, busy high profile jobs and we make decisions together. It does not make me lesser of a man that I wear a cock cage for her. We don’t want to involve others or my cock cage changing who we are as partners and people. We want my cock cage to enrich our already good life. We keep it private and enjoy it together in a Female Led Relationship that works for us.

    First talk with your partner about what you both want. I am not going to elaborate on this discussion here and how important it is. Maybe I will write a separate blog on this topic. We will start from the point where you both are exited and want to try 24/7 cock cage chastity. If you want 24/7 chastity, you will need a perfectly fitted, very likely custom built cock cage. Unfortunately, each manufacturer has a bit different measuring guide and it is not clear what and how to measure. Moreover even if you know how to measure, it will not mean what you think it means. I can easily measure the diameter of my penis, but how does it translate to the diameter of the cock cage is not that simple. Private parts are very squishy and flexible. Material also matters, and I will talk about medical stainless steel cock cage. I am using Jail Bird from Mature Metal (https://www.maturemetal.com/product/jail-bird/). I am actually thinking to get a titanium cock cage, because the titanium is much lighter and more biocompatible, but that is again for another time. I am assuming that a reader of this article has some knowledge about cock cages. To begin, let us first talk about typical vocabulary and what you will need to build a good cock cage:
    • Inside diameter
    • Base ring diameter
    • Gap between cage and base ring
    • Length
    It seems simple to get 4 measurements, but it is not. Unfortunately, all these measurements are coupled and it will take some time to get all those correct. For example, length can be the overall length, which is length of the cage + gap or just length of the cage itself. That is very important to distinguish as a larger gap will actually make overall length larger too. Also, the base ring diameter and shape can totally change the gap. The base ring can also be oval. Some manufactures separate these measurements, but some do not. Therefore, I strongly recommend to experiment and build a cage carefully. Here is a guide how:

    1. Measure yourself as best as you can and get a cheap device from internet. There are measuring guides, rings, there are many ways how to measure, but it is way different to have a rubber measuring ring around your penis and testicles for five minutes and to have a stainless steel one on 24/7. Therefore start with cheap device from internet, because the custom one is quite expensive. I got actually several of them and tested.
    2. OK, now you are measured, you think you know all 4 measurements well and your stainless steel cock cage arrives. You and your partner are so exited and you want to put it on so bad and be in it and sleep in it. I did that too! Oh boy, it went very bad. Please don’t do it as it will only extend the time you are actually cock cage free. I did hurt my sack skin and had to heal.
    3. Start with the base ring only. Put the base ring on and when flaccid you should be only able to put one index finder inside the ring up to the first knuckle. You will not believe how small ring you can actually wear. I started with a large 45 mm base ring and my testicles paid a very heavy price. The diameter of the base ring has to be perfect. As I said, I know you are excited and you want the whole thing on, but please only base ring first. Wear the ring for one day and get hard in it. When you are flaccid you should not even know about it during normal activities and when you get hard, you will have an incredible erection almost a bit painful one and your penis might turn purple color for a bit. Do not panic just let it go back to normal. Again, if you can put one index finder inside the base ring when it is around your flaccid penis and testicles you will be fine. If you feel ring during normal activities, like watching TV it might be too small, but if you can put two fingers in the base ring it is definitely too large. Give it a day or maybe even sleep in it. Nocturnal erections will be your worst enemy on your 24/7 caged journey. With just a ring you will get a small bite of what to expect at night. To be honest when the full cage is on, the base ring will actually feel better than when you just have the ring without the cage. If your base ring is not good order new cheap device or different ring for the cage you have. This experiment will give you the base ring diameter. Do not use a small ring that would restrict the blood flow and you would not be able to pee in it, but the large ring is no go also. Only order monolithic rings. There are rings you can close from two segments together, but that will pinch you often. Also there are cages that have pins that go to the base ring for everything to sit properly. That will pinch you also. Stay away! That is good for fantasy not for 24/7. Only one solid, smooth medical stainless steel ring with a post for the cage. Nothing should pinch. When you go for custom cage, you can order several rings around this measurement and that is what I did. I got 1 5/8 in — 4.1275 cm and 1 1/2 in — 3.8100 cm base rings both oval.
    4. Now we have the base ring done and we can do inside diameter and length. I used flexible soft measuring tape and measured circumference of my penis and computed the diameter. The inside cage diameter really has to be almost exactly the same as your flaccid penis. It is important that the cage diameter is not smaller. That can lead to issues, but a larger diameter is not good either as that will allow your penis to get erect. When your penis gets erect it will grow and it will put a force on the cage, which will pull your cage forward and the base ring with it. Therefore it is important that your penis cannot grow and your keyholder does not want it to grow anyway. When you prevent growth of the penis, you will lower the force on the cage and the base ring. Again, there are guides on how to measure and yet I measured it wrong. I had to send my custom built cage back and that is fine. Please expect setbacks and make adjustments. This will take time. When flaccid, your penis has to touch the cock cage bars. I am not circumcised and that creates some challenges too. We will talk about it a bit later. Your penis gland has to touch the cage. Do not retract your foreskin to test length. Just leave it alone in your normal state, but do not measure to the tip of the foreskin. There is still quite a gap and your penis could grow. Sometimes your penis will shrink a bit more and that is fine. I am talking about your normal state. In your normal state the penis has to touch the cage, in both length and diameter. I know we guys like to think we have a big penis, but don’t do it. Please go a bit smaller. I ordered 2 1/2 in cage, and I was 1/2 in off. Now I have 2 in — 5.080 cm length and it is perfect. As I said, this is not the overall length because of the gap. Bottom line, the cage has to perfectly fit your penis. It needs to be nice and snug.
    5. The gap. The gap is the distance between the base ring and the cock cage. It is also one of the hardest to get. Unfortunately, one of the most important for comfort. If the gap is too small, your sack will start to burn. It is very uncomfortable with a small gap. Many guides say that 3/8 in is a good gap, but that was a disaster for me. In general, if your testicles are low and you have low sack the gap can be smaller and if you are high and tight the gap should be bigger, but there is really very large swing in values. This is really impossible to know until you test it. Therefore, I got custom made 3 rings with different gaps. I have 1/2 in, 9/16 in and 5/8 in gaps. That is total 6 rings (1 5/8 in diameter base ring with gap of 1/2 in, 9/16 in, and 5/8 in, and 1 1/2 in diameter base ring with gap of 1/2 in, 9/16 in, and 5/8 in) I ordered from Mature Metal and it was the right decision. This way I can adjust as I need to and believe me it will be needed. The skin does stretch and things adjust over time and this way, I can go down the base ring size if I need to and also in gap.
    6. If you have foreskin as I do, and I will never allow anyone to cut it, there are some challenges. However, those can be solved. Just to put it in perspective, there are between 10,000 and 20,000 specialized erotogenic nerve endings of several types in foreskin. I am very happy I have it and I would rather solve couple of issues with the cock cage. One thing that helps are inverted front bars on Jail Bird. There are some other tricks I will discuss later.
    7. Lock versus screw. The lock sounds so romantic and she has a key, but for 24/7, it is very impractical. If you want 24/7 chastity you need a security screw. First, lock no matter how good will not perfectly clamp the cage and the base ring together. A lock will allow things to move around and that is not what you want. Moreover, a lock bounces, it is very difficult to sleep with, it pinches, just don’t do it. I tried. I understand it is less romantic for your keyholder to have a screwdriver, but it is much more practical than a key.
    Here is my Jail Bird from Mature Metal:
    • Inside diameter 1 3/8 in — 3.4925 cm
    • Base ring diameter 1 5/8 in — 4.1275 cm (oval)
    • Gap between cage and base ring 5/8 in — 1.5875 cm
    • Length 2 in — 5.080 cm
    As I said, I have several rings so as I grow into it, I can adjust. Before we move forward, I have to say that Mature Metal, Mistress MM and her husband Willam are fantastic. Yes, Jail Bird will cost you some money, but I can say it is worth every penny. They are awesome and I would recommend Mature Metal to anyone. I wish Mature Metal would do titanium, but I understand manufacturing challenges.

    Now you have a perfectly fitted cock cage and you think you are done. Well unfortunately not. Yes, it will fit exceptionally well, but your body still needs to adjust and learn. You have a very restrictive metal device around your private parts. Take your time. Start slow. Go couple of hours and then a day, then couple of days and then try one night. Give your body time to accommodate. You will find that no matter how well-fitted cage you have, you will still feel some discomfort. When you are doing normal day-to-day stuff it should be ok, but when you get hard, it will still tug and pull. You will feel a lot of pressure. What helped me is vaseline. I also saw some people using baby oil. Basically, lubrication helps as you train your body to adjust. For foreskin pinching, I found nursing pads being recommended in some chats. Those really work. Oh man, it will create a small cushion in your underwear and it will be so comfy. Wear tight underwear also. As I mentioned, nocturnal erections are very strong and it will probably wake you up. Maybe overtime it subsides, but at the beginning it is brutal. There is very little known medically about nocturnal erections and 24/7/365 cock cage wearing. I found some suggestions that letting your penis free 2-3 nights per month is the best and I like that approach. At the end, for us it is about enjoyment, comfort and certainly being safe and staying healthy. Now it will just take time to get used to it. We are already having a lot of fun with my wife and I cannot wait to see our journey with my cock caged to evolve.
     
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    I am now at the wearing-in part of our journey and it really seems that is does make a difference. My foreskin is less troubled although it stil chaves a little after 3, 4 days.

    The nocturnal hard-ons are a thing of it's own, but appear to be less of a problem if I don't drink to much during the evening.

    Mentally after some time I get to appreciate the feeling of my body telling me it's aroussed, but unable to do anything about it. It become more of a gentle and sometimes constant reminder.

    Wel written, I comepletely concur. I was lucky enough to find a cage that works for me after just a few other standerd cages.
     
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    There's a big expectation about going for 24x7 locked, and the worst thing is..... nothing happens. Except when you have a look and tell yourself, I'm locked forever.
     
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    #4 Guest 6019, Feb 26, 2022
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    Nice write up.

    I'm lucky. I found off the shelf cages that are comfortable, pretty much right away. I may go for a custom one day. Like the look of a Cherry Keeper.

    I've been 24/7 from the get-go (not without release). I couldn't have knocked the masturbation on the head, Lol, without doing that. There was some adjustments to make, and I always vasaline the ring before bed to prevent chaffing now. It's whether you want to play chastity games or live in chastity as a lifestyle choice. Once I was locked, and felt that loving feeling of being owned there was no way back. Get it on a deal with it I say, if it's a lifestyle choice, or if you need to stop masturbating.
     
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    Great post.
    And a must read for everyone.
     
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    Indeed. Big difference between chastity game and a lifetime. Stay with it. I have to use Vaseline less and less. At daytime I don’t even know I have a cage often except for the constant arousal that my cage provides. Nights are also much better. I would recommend custom cage, but it is true those are expensive.
     
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    Thank you.
     
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    Careful with the Vaseline, its got glycerine (organic) in it and the combination of body heat, sweat will lead to nasty fungus and smells.
     
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    Try those nursing pads. I have no issues with foreskin. There should be no chafing or burning with well fitted cage. Also no pain. I only experience strong pressure when my penis is trying to get hard. Otherwise, I have 0 discomfort. Yes skin around the ring will need to adjust and ointment helps. As I mentioned in the post, for normal day wearing you should not even feel the cage. Only when you get hard things will start pressing, but all discomfort should disappear when you are back flaccid. Stay with it.
     
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    Good tip. Thanks. There are good ointment products that will not do that.
     
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    With the steel cage I generally don't need any, but I used to use a silicon based lube. Just a drop and all was fixed
     
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    Yes with well fitted cage there will be less and less need for it. I only use a little ointment before night. I actually use A+D ointment.
     
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    I think the stainless steel is naturally slippery, especially more so as time goes on
     
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    I really wish there with be more options in titanium. I love Jail Bird from MM. I would love to have titanium one. Titanium is much much lighter.
     
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    True, but the weight of the stainless is very assuring and a constant reminder that your cock is well and truly locked
     
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    Lol. I will know it is locked even with a less weight. Regardless, I think for long term it is only stainless or titanium in my opinion.
     
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    Agreed. And I don't think my Mistress would have wanted to do chastity 24x7 if it were a plastic or silicon device. Steel makes it look more like a nice piece of jewellery.
     
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    I agree my wife says I look sexy in.
     
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    Mine uses the word "cute"
     
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    I'm wearing the one in my profile picture. I'm uncut, and it is very comfortable. The occasional pinch if hard and skin catches between the bars but it's easily fixed. I love how it looks , not sure Mrs Jah has a strong opinion really on the look. Does the job.
     
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    Hi, you mentioned about inverted bars as a tip for foreskin. Could you elaborate more? Thanks!
     
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    Just remember titanium is much more expensive and difficult to fabricate. Hence, if you think a Mature Metal is expensive, try a titanium (real titanium, not the fake brush finished Chinese pop metal ones) cage.
     
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    On Jail bird the side bars that go from left to right are usually over the top bars that go from top to bottom. All bars cross over in a half circle to create the cage. If you revert that order, the top to bottom bars will be on top now and the left to right bars will be under and clothe will better flow over the cage and rub the foreskin less.
     
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    I am fully aware how expensive that could be. However, if I use that cage for years 24/7, than it might be a good investment. So far I really love my Jail Bird. I am in the cock cage 24/7 with 0 pain, absolutely no issues. I sleep in it, I go to gym in it to work, all stuff. The most of the time I don’t even know I have it on. When mild discord arrives, it is usually solved by ointment under my base ring. Night erections are strong, but I feel just a lot of pressure. I go pee and back to bed. The cage really works well.
     
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    some update and why several base rings are important. As I got very comfortable in my cage I went from 5/8 in - 1.5875 cm gap to 9/16 - 1.42875 cm in gap. As sack stretches this is a normal progression. That makes everything even more snuck and comfortable.
     
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