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    I don't know about that. Take a look at the educational background of extremists in the United States currently and you'll see a low of low-education, low-information people involved. I do understand your point relating to your own personal experience, however.
     
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    #52 LockitMan, Aug 10, 2021
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    I loved your story so much that I could probably talk about it with you for hours, but let me just say that a lot of what you read is either fantasy or fantasy play... Having said that though I think that we non Scandinavian men grew up with a lot more macho garbage in our heads that often needs to be kicked out of us. Many of us are aware of this so maybe the fantasy grows up around that realization. Either way we need to be treated more harshly than the young boys you grew up with. You were raised right, we were raised wrong and even more violently.

    Women do feel emotions more strongly I do, that's why I want to pay for my mistakes with the whip. So I can experience some of the anxt and agony I have caused her with my offense.. That would be my penance for my sin against her, by breaking her rules or codes of behavior.

    We've all seen that girls are far superior in maturity to us at a certain age and I think it scares us to a degree. Perhaps misogyny starts there.

    Girls deserve to be praised for their inherent maturity and taught to use it on boys their age to teach them just as your sister taught you a valuable life lesson at only 11 years old!


    Anyway, I wish I could have grown up where you did. It sounds quite idyllic and beautiful.




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    Dear knight4princess

    You are right.
    Thank you for correcting me with your very relevant mention of the political situation in the USA of today.

    But when I wrote, that people with a higher education generally tend to be more ideologically extreme than people without a higher education, I was thinking of Denmark and Western Europe in the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s.
    The 1968 youth uprisings in Paris, Copenhagen and other Western European cities were to a great extent organized by university students, and the followers and supporters of the ensuing antiauthoritarian New Left were mostly young university students and academics.
    In the 1970s the New Left in Denmark and other Western European countries split up in various small far left socialist parties, many of whom paradoxically had a rather authoritarian political ideology, and often the members of those small far left parties admired what they considered to be their "socialist model country", be it communist Albania, the Peoples Republic of China under Chairman Mao, North Korea and so on.
    Although these small socialist parties of the New Left liked to label themselves as "Workers Party" or "Peoples Party", very few people from the working class actually voted for them. The great majority of the working class voted for the Social Democratic parties, but among academics and especially among students those far left parties had many members and voters.
    Perhaps you won't believe it, but back in the 1970s the extremist and terrorist group Rote Armee Fraction (RAF) in Western Germany had many admirers among the leftist students in Western Germany and also to some extent in Denmark. On the far left members of the RAF when taken prisoners by the police after they had committed politically motivated murders were considered to be political prisoners, and not politically motivated terrorists.
    On the other hand there was no sympathy for the RAF among the German workers.

    The political cultures in Western Europe and the USA differs widely, and it was my fault that I did not take this into consideration.
     
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    When I spoke to young Danes I was amazed at how much they seemed to be becoming brainwashed by the USA. I advised them to visit the USA and have a very good look around to see how ordinary people live there before deciding to depart from their social democratic way of life. True, Danes pay high taxes but they also get most of it back through excellent infrastructure and services and the vast majority have a very comfortable lifestyle. Check where the taxes go in the USA and for that matter places like Australia.
     
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    Dear OldLockedCuck

    Although this Forum is not a political site, I have to say that I totally agree with what you wrote in your latest post.
    I do not in any way complain over the high taxes we pay here in Denmark. I only mentioned this fact because otherwise readers in the United States and other countries perhaps would not understand how we in our country can offer young people a higher education for free if they want to study and also have the skills to study at an University. (Not only higher education, but almost all education is for free in Denmark, unless the parents are sending their children to a private school).
    Besides free education and an excellent infrastructure and a lot of other services which we Danes pay for through our taxes, if ill every inhabitant in our country gets the best possible treatment at our hospitals for free, without she or he needs to have a private health insurance.
    But as I said: This is not a political Forum. The above is only meant as information in the same way as I have told you about the Danish far left and the Red Stocking Feminist Movement in the 1970s, because without this knowledge you cannot understand how and why our small Female Led community arose in the first place, I think.

    This Forum is called Chastity Mansion, and PawEee once asked me, how I found this malechastity-centred forum?
    I found it coincidentally some day when I was browsing the Internet. As I have told in my post on the Introduction site on this Forum, I don't wear a chastity device and never have, because this concept to my knowledge is very new in Denmark. My wife Larissa has always controlled our sexual life, including my orgasms, but without I ever had to wear a chastity devise. I therefore thought that I would be kicked out of your Forum as an "unbeliever"
    But I now understand that you are tolerent people, since you let me write here, although I strictly speaking do not belong in your Mansion.
     
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    Thank you for commenting, and yes, I do not wish to become political but couldn't resist my remarks because I have a particularly strong interest in Denmark and I feel many in the West do not appreciate how good life is for the vast majority there and in Scandanadia in general. I did not intend to criticise the US as I really like it there too. Rather I wanted to tell Danes who think the grass is greener elsewhere that they should be careful what they wish for. I love your story too.
     
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    Dear Tjelk, No one is excluded, if one doesn’t breach the rules. Being closed in chastity is not a rule that we’ve accepted joining CM ;)
    Could you tell us something, if it’s possible, how your wife controlled your sexual life?
    How she could’ve control your orgasms with no use of enforced chastity?
     
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    #58 Tjeik, Aug 15, 2021
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    Dear PawEee

    I think that I already in some of my other post have told about how the women of our Female Led Community controll our sexual life. Since you ask, I will tell you more about it, but first I will tell you a bit more about our Female Led Community, why our moms raised their children in the way they did, and about how Larissa chose me to be her male partner for life, and about our wedding ritual.

    It may seem strange that our mom constantly told Ida and me about female superiority when we were children, and always stressed the fact, that Ida was vastly superior to me.
    And not only us, but all the girls and boys of our small Female Led Community were in the same way told of the superiority of girls and females as an undeniable fact of life by their mothers
    Spider203 in one of his replies to me calls it "brainwashing", and although I don't agree with him, I fully understand why he thinks so.

    But isn't it natural for parents to try to impart to their children their own worldview and norms?
    Where is the line to be drawn between upbringing and brainwashing?

    In my experience, if the worldview and norms that the parents try to impart to their children do not differ fundamentally from those of the surrounding society, then we call it upbringing.
    If this is NOT the case - if parents try to raise their children according to norms and conception of the world (for instance the gender roles) that are completely at odds with the prevailing norms in the society at large - then we tend to speak of brainwashing.

    Although in Denmark of the 1970s the official policy was gender equality, all the same the male gender was still somehow supposed to be the superior gender, exemplified in many ways. For instance when married, the wife normally took the family name of her husband.
    Perhaps the mothers of our Female Led Community overstressed the fact of female superiority, but they did it because they were in opposition to the many thousand year old concept of male superiority, which still more or less dominated the surrounding Danish society.
    They also did it, I think, because our mothers knew, that living in a Female Led Community we children were different from most other children, and therefore we had to know, why we were living in a different way so that we could argue for it and defend ourselves in discussions with other people.

    But as the male partners of the women were expected to obey their wives, if they wanted to stay among us, and we boys were told to obey our mothers and our teenage sisters, so were the girls always told by their mothers to respect us boys, and never to misuse their authority.
    Because the wise women knew, that their Female Led Community would only exist, and be a nice place for all it's members to live in, if everybody accepted the rules, because they felt that they were treated in a fair way.
    And of cause men are needed in the world. Also in a Female Led world.
    My mother used to compare our small community with a tree:
    The women and girls were the trunk, and the men and we boys were the leaves of the tree.
    No part of the tree can survive without the other part. But the trunk is what constitutes the tree. The leaves being its helpers, so to speak.
    This concept was clearly expressed in the Matriarchal inspired wedding ritual that was used when Larissa and I were married, as you will see.

    As a young teenage girl, my dear little sister Ida was very fascinated by the talk of the adult women of our community about ancient Matriarchies and so on, and talked a lot with me about how she herself some day in the distant future would be a kind of Matriarch in her own family, which of course she was very proud of.
    I was a bit embarrassed about it, because if I some day was to be married to one of the wonderful girls of our community, my role in her family would be very different from the role Ida would have in her family. We both knew that.
    On the other hand I very much wanted to stay on in our Female Led Community and live together with one of our lovely girls as an adult. I couldn't imagine otherwise, because like most people I felt most comfortable with living in the way I knew, and was used to.


    As I have told in another post, the women of our community regarded the creation of new life as something sacred. Motherhood being the one thing that more than anything else singles out the female sex as being the superior sex. The Mother is the center of the family, we all belong to her. As I already have told, the man's role is to support her and her children in the best way he can. So the thinking of our mothers.

    I grew up in a Female Led Community where we in some cases were practicing forms of sexuality, which most other people would consider to be very odd. But the good side of this is, that I never criticize or reject other people's sexual preferences, if only they are based on mutual consent.

    The contraceptive pill was very seldom used by our mothers and their daughters who were suspicious of the products of the capitalistic society, as I have told in another post. They also thought, that it was the boy's or the man's responsibility not to make his girlfriend or woman pregnant, unless she wanted to. And as I have told, the mothers taught their daughters how to manipulate the genitals of their boyfriends to prevent them from ejaculating inside her.
    The condom was sometimes used, but it was not easy to get, because we could not buy condoms in the nearby village.

    In the second half of the 1970s, as the expected great Socialist World Revolution did not happen, our leftist and feminist mothers with increasing intensity began to swap the Marxist ideology for the much more Female Centered Matriarchal world view, as I have told.
    As well educated women, they all read a lot about ancient Matriarchies, ancient Goddesses and stuff like that. And they of cause noticed, that in Matriarchal societies, of which a few exist even today, the concept of fatherhood do not exist, or do not play any role at all. Because in such a society the lineage is determined in the female line, not in the male line, and who is the mother of a child is never in doubt. Therefore in such a Matriarchal society women's sexuality is not controlled by men. And their daughters are the heiresses, because the women are the property owners.

    (As I have told in an earlier post, a key concept of the Matriarchal theory is, that it was women who created the earliest agricultural societies, because in the hunter and gather stone age the men had been the hunters, while the women gathered eatable plants and roots. Some of the women then gradually learned how to cultivate plants, and eventually how to cultivate fields, which they of cause owned, because the fields with the growing crops became their prime working place, so to speak, their men and sons only being their helpers. Fertility of both men, animals and crops was the all overriding concern for women and men in those age old Matriarchal societies. And Goddesses, guaranteeing the fertility were the focus of worship. So the theory goes. Shortly told).

    In our Female Led Community, the women often had changing lovers, as I have mentioned earlier on. Therefore it really didn't matter whoever was the father of their children. But with the growing fascination of all things Matriarchal in what I call the "fanatical period" of our community, even the word "father" disappeared from daily use among us.
    The women and their daughters were used to speak of the men with whom they were sexually engaged as their lovers, but now a new and somewhat degrading word came into use among the girls and their mothers of our little Matriarchy.
    A male with whom a woman intended to form a relationship in order to have children with him was now called "hendes befrugter". (It simply means a man whose task it is to make a woman pregnant. Perhaps you might say "her begetter" in English).
    Even Larissa used this word. I had already been her boyfriend for a pretty long time, and we of cause had had a long standing sexual relationship when she one day in early june 1982 told me, that "jeg har valgt dig til at være min befrugter, Tjeik" (I have chosen you to be my begetter, Tjeik).
    Of cause I had the right to say no to her proposal - there was no compulsion in our Female Led Community whatsoever - but the clearly visible bulge that her words caused my penis to form in my briefs was a sufficient answer, as Larissa noticed with a smile. And so it was.

    Perhaps I should underline the fact, that it is quite normal for small communities, who are formed in opposition to the greater society to abandon the symbols and rituals of that society, and instead form their own symbols and rituals according to their own ideals. Because human beings simply need symbols and rituals. Something to relate to, which is bigger than ourselves.
    For instance the Free Town of Christiania in Copenhagen has its own flag and its own rules and its own special kind of local government.
    Perhaps this fact can help you to better understand, or at least accept, the rather odd wedding ritual that was performed for Larissa and me on the day of the Summer Solstice (Sankt Hans Aften in Danish) 1982, when I was just twenty year old, and Larissa was nineteen year old.

    That our wedding ceremony took place on that day, was no coincident.

    Summer Solstice, Winter Solstice and Spring Equinox and Autumn Equinox were considered to have been important dates in the calendar of the old agricultural Matriarchal societies.
    Because the choosing of a male partner (or "befrugter", "begetter" as our women said back then) was considered to be a matter which only concerned the young woman herself and her female relatives and friends - plus of cause the chosen male - besides me only women were present in Larissa's mother Jacinta's house, where the ceremony took place in the bedroom, which Larissa and me should share.
    Larissa's mother Jacinta and Larissa's one year younger sister Ophelia were present, and so of cause were my mother and my little sister Ida, who was 17 year old at the time and therefore considered to be a young and mature woman. Also Ida's best friend Louise was invited, and Louise's mother Karen was also present. And of cause Larissa's best girlfriends Clara, Mette and Sonja were also invited.
    The about forty year old woman Monika, who was a kind of chief Matriarchal ideologist - you may perhaps call her a kind of Priestess - in our community, performed the wedding ritual.

    First she asked Larissa if she would "elske Tjeik og modtage ham i dit hus og under dit tag" (love Tjeik and receive him in your house and under your roof), to which Larissa said yes.
    Then Monika asked me if I would "elske, tjene og adlyde Larissa" (love, serve and obey Larissa) to which I of cause also answered yes.
    These questions may seem strange, but the meaning of the words were only a description of our every day life:
    That I should "serve" Larissa only meant, that I should do my chores in our daily routines, as Larissa would do hers. And "obey" only meant that I recognized Larissa's right to make the final decisions. So I entered into much the same kind of relation to Larissa as that I was used to in regard to my mother and my sister.
    And strictly speaking the house did not belong to Larissa. It of cause belonged to Jacinta, her mother. But all the same the wording of the wedding ritual was as described.

    The strangest part of our wedding ritual was what followed thereafter. Larissa and me were expected to consume our wedding by having intercourse at once, and the invited women were to look on.
    Normally of cause sexual intercourse is a strictly private activity, also among us. But the wedding was seen as a kind of almost holy Fertility Ritual, and the women thought that it was a good omen when the bride became pregnant and bore a child nine months after her wedding intercourse.
    I only had to pull of my brief and lay down in the bed, and I of cause immediately had a full erection. I have told how intercourse was among us, but this time Larissa of cause let me ejaculate inside of her. And as I so did, she screamed with joy and delight. And so did all the women onlookers.

    Nine months later she actually bore our first child, a lovely boy, whom Larissa named Alex.

    Two years later we even had the sweetest twin daughters, which was a great blessing, because twins are very seldom born. Larissa decided to name them Ariadne and Andromeda, because being of Greek origin she preferred Greek names.

    For the next nearly four years Larissa took great care, not to become pregnant again, and she certainly knew how to avoid it. Because there naturally was a lot of work and expenses which went with having twin daughters.

    About four years after our lovely twin daughters Ariadne and Andromeda were born, we had our last child. A little boy, whom Larissa named Jason. As he grow up, he became a kind of pet child for his twin sisters.
     
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    As promised I will now tell about how my beloved wife Larissa always has controlled our sexual life.

    As a young woman Larissa was very demanding in bed when we were having sexual intercourse.

    She often had multiple orgasms before she perhaps would let me have one, and she often even wanted more.
    When she finally was satisfied, I felt quite exhausted, while Larissa did not seem to be exhausted at all. Therefore she not always allowed me to ejaculate, because Larissa knew that if she did let me have an orgasm every time we were having sexual intercourse, then I would not be able to have sexual intercourse with her so often as she wanted.

    It was, and still is very frustrating for me if Larissa for a longer period of days do not let me ejaculate, but I have to put up with it, as I had back then, although I am not locked in a chastity device, because among us the woman as told is entitled to control our sexual life, because she is the one who can get pregnant. (Of course today Larissa has for many years been to old to become pregnant).

    I have never tried to cheat her by masturbating, not only because she surely would have found out, but also because I respect her to much to do a thing, which my mother and my sister always told me is a very nasty thing for a boy or man to do.
    And then of cause I know, that when Larissa finally let me have an orgasm, it after a period of chastity will be much more intense.
    So it was and still is a win-win situation for both Larissa and me, you might say.
    Of cause I know that Larissa uses her sexual power as a way to control me by awarding me with an orgasm if she think that I deserve it. But it really do not bother me, because I never felt that Larissa has abused her power.
     
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    Dear #Tjaelk,
    Are there any sociological or anthropological studies on this unique FL community published in English or German? I would like to read more about this. Thanks for sharing so much personal details depicting life there
     
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    Thanks a lot for all these information on this utopia, and you have your place in the mansion, your story is rich and extraordinary. Thanks for sharing it so far.
     
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    Dear PawEee

    Unfortunately I must disappoint you. There are no sociological or anthropological studies of our small Female led Community back then published in German or English, or in any other language.
    And that is no coincidence, because our mothers who had founded our community chose quite consciously to live by the Danish proverb:
    "Den der lever stille lever godt". (In English: "he who lives quietly lives well").

    In Copenhagen "The Free Town of Christiania" (a hippie camp or colony, you might call it) quickly became a tourist attraction, and our mothers certainly did not want the same thing to happen for our small alternative life style community. Although our small community of course was much smaller than "The Free Town of Christiania". Much, much smaller.
    I am glad that our wise mothers thought in this way.
    Because I don't think that I or the other children in our community would have liked to be looked at by curious strangers as if we were some rare animals in a zoo.

    You also should not forget, that our feminist mothers never wanted to convert other people to live in the Female Led way we did.

    There even might have been another reason why the adult women, many of whom were academics as I have told previously, did not encourage anyone to write a sociological or anthropological study of our Female Led Community:
    It is a known fact that small communities that are the subject of a scientific study, often to some extent are influenced by the scientists and their study.
    My mother, who was a sociologist, certainly would have known that.

    So as I said:
    I must disappoint you.
    But you and the other readers are always welcome to ask me questions.
     
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    Well it's still not too late to write a book. And I think the more you write in English the better you get. Thanks for another amazing set of posts.
     
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    #64 Tjeik, Aug 15, 2021
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    Dear Kylara

    Thank you very much for your kind words and for the tolerance that I have been shown by all people here on this Forum.
    And I want to repeat what I have said before, that I also very much welcome critical comments.

    But as I have told, our small Female Led Community of course also had some dark sides.
    Human beings are a mixture of good and evil. No person is without faults. And therefore no human society or community is perfect.
    If you try to create an utopia, you are doomed to fail.
    History in my opinion teaches us that.

    I don't think that the feminist women who founded our community tried to create an utopia - they only wished to establish a Female Led Community - but as I have told, there was a time where these women, who were our mothers, turned fanatic, urged on by to much reading about ancient Matriarchies and their Goddess worship rites, which supposedly included circumcision of young boys.
    Therefore four of us boys were circumcised in June 1978, when we were 16 year old. I was one of them.
    I have told about it in my posts 33, 38 and 42 on this thread, and I shall not repeat it here.

    I don't blame anybody for it.

    And I would not have told about the circumcision of us four boys if I had not been asked about it.
    But you cannot give an honest description of anything if you keep silent about the unpleasant sides of it.
     
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    Again thank you for letting us know what it was like living in a female led society I am purely fascinated by that it was like for you and I try to compare your upbringing to my own life growing up in a normal house mother father brothers and sisters but in a more traditional style but I think the real decisions were made by my mother yes my father would have a say in it but if my mother said something had to be done a certain way that was the way it had to be done.
    I would love to have a wedding like that my mother and my mother in law and my sisters in law were the only one at. I don’t think I could look them in the eye ever again.
    BTW under the Khan dynasty it was the woman running China making all the decisions because the men were at war all the time.
     
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    Dear Tjaelk,
    Research of this kind is rather a question of some external decision, taken by scientusts independently of people that are to be subject of such an inquiry, studies and written publications. Such work is in many cases undertaken „a posteriori”, when given sociological or antropological phenomenon is in it’s final stage or even expired altogether with only traces and eye-witnesses testimonies collected.
    It’s rather strange that no-one tried to explore such a unique experiment. Very strange indeed
     
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    Hello. This is a very interesting read about a part of history that so little has been told about. You mentioned about also hearing criticism from us your readers. The truth about this is most likely you are the only person on this site that has ever mentioned or even knows about this life style. So we are here in awe just reading your documentary about this community and life style. Thankyou for sharing it with us
     
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    #68 Tjeik, Aug 18, 2021
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    Dear PawEee

    I think there are at least two explanations for why there are no sociological or anthropological descriptions of the small Female Led community in which my wife Larissa and my sister Ida and I grew up.

    Our community was a fairly small community, and our mothers shunned the public. I already mentioned this in another post.

    But the main reason why nobody (except our neighbours in the nearby village) seemed to notice us was - I think - that our small community with it's alternative lifestyle was nothing special at the time, because back in the 1970s there were a lot of mini societies or collectives in Denmark, founded by young people who mostly belonged to the far left (or the New Left, as it was called).
    There also existed collectives founded by groups of youths, who belonged to the New Age spiritual movement, which was inspired by eastern religions, and who believed in reincarnation and karma, practiced meditation, were vegetarians and so on.

    We also had Tvind, a confederation of private schools where all the teachers belonged to the extreme left and tried to create a new socialist society and to form their pupils accordingly, preparing them for The Great World Revolution, which as we now know never happened and never will take place. Tvind is not a small group of schools but a large confederation, which still exists, and sometimes it is called "Tvindimperiet" ("The Tvind Empire").
    (Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tvind).

    So even if you and other readers may think that the Female Led community of my childhood was so very strange, weird or odd, that it ought to have attracted the attention of anthropologists or sociologists, back then and in Denmark, which is a very tolerant society, it really was not so very special.

    But back then there also was "Femølejren", a summer camp on the Island of Femø, exclusively for women (boys younger than 12 year were also allowed in the camp), which I have not mentioned in any of my post, because to my knowledge non of the women of our community ever visited this Femø women's summer camp.
    But yesterday I found an article on the Danish Wikipedia about the Femø Camp which I think is of relevans.
    Unfortunately there only is a Danish article on Wikipedia about it, but I have tried to translate it into English.
    (For the Danish Wikipedia article see this link: https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femølejren).

    My translation of the Danish Wikipedia article:


    "Femølejren is a women's island camp, set up by the Red Socks in 1971 on Femø.

    In the summer of 1971, the first Femø camp took place, a year after the start of the Red Stocking Movement. The Femø camp was set up by the "Red Socks", and was a camp where all women and children could participate. However, boys over 12 year were not welcome because it is estimated that when boys reached puberty, they had been brought up by society so that their behaviors and attitudes helped to oppress and manipulate women. The Red Socks decided to hold this camp so that women could be together at a place with no men to command them. The camp was also used to discuss the situation of women and the future strategy in the fight against the "male society". There was broad agreement on the importance of women being natural and in harmony with the nature. The women should therefore feel free in the island camp. It was therefore natural that the Red Socks lived in tents and were naked in order to come "back to nature". For many women, the Femø camp was the first contact with the Red Stocking Movement and for that reason alone the camp became very important. Some of the women who participated in these Femø camps subsequently set up collectives, only for women, and many actively participated in demonstrations as well as protests across the country in the fight for better rights and equality."


    I find this article interesting because I think it shred some light on the activities of our Feminist mothers.
    First of all I notice, that: "Some of the women who participated in these Femø camps subsequently set up collectives, only for women", which confirms that our Female Led Community was not so exceptional back then as it might seem to be today.

    Even more interesting for me personally is the statement: "However, boys over 12 year were not welcome because it is estimated that when boys reached puberty, they had been brought up by society so that their behaviors and attitudes helped to oppress and manipulate women".
    As I told in my first post on this thread it was when I was 12-13 year old, and thus becoming a teenage boy, that our mom really started to tell Ida and me about the fact of female superiority, always telling us, that being a girl Ida was vastly superior to me.
    In light of the above statement I think it is obvious that she did not tell Ida and me about the inherent superiority of girls in order to belittle me, but because she wanted to counteract the influence of the male dominated society so that I did not grew up to oppress and manipulate women.
    And in fact my highly intelligent dear little sister Ida really WAS vastly superior to me back then, but I hope you all will agree with me, that she also was a very nice girl. I couldn't have had a better little sister than Ida.
    The above article also stress that the women at the Femø Camp wanted to be natural and live in harmony with the nature.
    Exactly as our mothers did, who wanted to be as self sufficient as possible, and who never used cosmetics or make up of any kind, and neither did and do their daughters.

    It may seem strange, but it was not strange back then, as I hope to have shown in this post.
     
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    Im from Denmark - born 1962 - my family was a normal common working family so I have no part of his history but it was well known that other ppl ' hippies' lived another life - so many things he write give me flashback -
     
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    Dear Tjelk,
    Thank a lot once more,

    Your translation and a link to danish wikipage on Fomø, gave some impression of a scale and importance of womenslib’ movement in Denmark ca 1970 and decade after. There is short bibliography available there and a link to an interesting page of a Cologne-based journal: <https://www.emma.de/artikel/die-jahre-1971-bis-1975-so-fing-es-264242>
    Danish society is fascinating.
     
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    Very interesting real life experience! Thanks for sharing!
     
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    #73 Tjeik, Aug 28, 2021
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    In my Introduction post from the 1. of August, a member named MSBD321 asked me to tell a bit more about how my wife controls me.

    Actually I have never thought of my wife Larissa as someone who controls me, because as I have told you in previous posts, I have never felt inferior together with my loving wife Larissa - even when we both were children I did not do that - but in the last weeks or so Larissa and I have spoken much of what I have been writing here, and we both agree, that Larissa really has controlled me all the time, but in so gentle and benevolent a way that I have never objected at being controlled by her.

    As a boy I had to obey my mother and later on my dear little sister Ida. Thus I have always been used to be led by females in a kind but firm way, so for me it is the natural way of relationship between a female and a male.
    For Larissa and me it simply is how we live or ordinary daily life, because we never have experienced another way of life.
    And most people are most comfortable with what they are used to.
    I never call Larissa my Mistress or my Goddess, because there is no need for me to stress the obvious:
    That Larissa is the Head of our family, and always has been ever since she was 19, and I was 20 year old.

    A symbolic, but clear sign of this is, that after our wedding ritual I had to take the family name of my beloved wife Larissa, who is of Greek origin.
    In our Female Led Community it has always been the rule, that the husband have to take over the family name of his wife.
    In our community we attach great importance to the unity of the family.
    Therefore it is of importance to us that all members of a family bear the same family name.
    Which in our case logically enough only can be the family name of the wife.

    As I already have told, among us the women control our sexual life, because they have to decide if they want to be penetrated by a penis. Among us the woman always sits on top of the man, because this position allows her to control the sexual act.
    So Larissa controls me by controlling our sexual life, and at different intervals allowing me to have an orgasm as a kind of reward of course also was a very effective way for her to control me back than when we both were young, because what my mother had told me as a boy about the nastiness of the bad habit of masturbation effectively prevented me to cheat on Larissa in that way. You may say that my upbringing made the use of a chastity devise superfluous for me, even if we had known about the existence of such a thing, which we did not.



    But by far the most effective way for the women of our Female Led Community to control us men, and to assure that our community remains Female Led is the fact, that all our property, houses, money and everything, is owned by the women.

    When Ida and me were children, we were always told, that competition is an inevitable trait of the patriarchal society, which our moms resented, because males are born to be competitive. Women on the other hand tend to be compassionate and caring, due to the fact that they in all traditional societies are the main child carers.
    Today I think that this explanation perhaps may be a bit exaggerated, but back then I of cause believed in everything that my mom and the other moms in our Female Led Community said.
    It was among other things to avoid the "typically male competitiveness", that our feminist mothers always insisted upon, that everything in our community should be owned by the women in common, in order to secure, that our community always would remain strictly Female Led. As I have told, our feminist mothers and founders of our community originally were leftist socialist, and they of cause had noticed, that all previous socialist revolutions sooner or later had led to deadly faction strife between strongly competitive male revolutionary leaders.
    Even on the so called "New Left" in the years around 1970 this pattern repeated itself:
    The young revolutionaries' countless meetings always ended up with young men making endless speeches in competition with other young revolutionary men from slightly different socialist fractions...and the women were in the kitchen making coffee for the men....
    Our moms would have nothing of this. Therefore they from the beginning decided, that all decisions in our community should be made by the women at their Women's Meetings, and men were not allowed to attend these meetings. (The girls were allowed to be present, if they wished to. It was a way to prepare them for their future role in our community).

    In later life I found out, that women can be quite competitive too.
    But Larissa and Ida, and my other female friends from my childhood, who still very much adhere to their old matriarchal ideology, insist on saying, that overtly competitive women just have taken over a patriarchal trait to survive in a male dominated society.
    I don't know if this explanation is true - our women allways have an explanation of everything according to our Female Centered world view - but at least I know for sure, that our moms who founded our "little Matriarchy" did their outmost to live up to their ideals of limitless solidarity within their group.

    The women who founded our community bought the cheap country cottages where we lived and the associated land all by themselves, without the help of any man. And as the first thing they did they made the rule, that only women could own property in their newfounded community, thereby guaranteeing that it would remain Female Led. Because whoever owns the means of production has the power to rule. As I have told, our mothers were both feminist and marxist, and therefore they of course understood, that power relations between people ultimately depend on the ownership relations.

    As a young man newly married to my beloved wife Larissa we all - Larissa, her one year younger sister Ophilia and me - lived together in Larissa's mother Jacinta's house. After I got a job in a library, I had to hand over my salary, not to Larissa, but to my mother in law Jacinta, who was the Female Head of our houshold. But this did not bother me, because also my wife Larissa and her sister Ophelia had to hand over their salaries to their mother Jacinta, when they got a job.

    This did not mean that we missed anything or were in any way poor, because Jacinta managed our money in the very best possible way.

    Later on Ophelia married Tom, a young man she had fallen in love with. Tom was a close friend of mine from the nearby village, who had become so fascinated by our lovely, yet strongminded girls and our Female Led way of life that he very much wished to live among us with one of our young women in a Female Led Relationship.

    At first both Ophilia and Tom lived together with us in our small house, so now I no longer was the only male in the house.

    A year or so after my dear wife Larissa bore our first born son whom she named Alex, Jacinta bought a cheap small country house - what the English call a cottage - for her daughter Ophelia, where she could live with her husband Tom. Our frugal mony saving life style and the fact that she as the Matriarch of our family managed all our money made it possible for Jacinta to do this. Ophelia of course also got her part of the surrounding fields and orchards, which the women owned in common.

    Many years later Jacinta sold the house and the lands and her part of the fields and the orchards which the women of our community owned in common to Larissa.
    Larissa then was the Matriarch of our family, and from then on I of course had to hand over my salary to her, and still have.
    But it does not bother me in any way, because my beloved wife Larissa always thinks of what is best for our whole family, including me, and never of what is best for her.
    Exactly as her mother Jacinta did.

    Larissa has the right to make the finale decisions, but this does not mean that she does not discuss things with me beforehand. Because of course she does.
    And although we mostly agree, we do not always agree.
    I of course am free to contradict Larissa - otherwise we cannot have a discussion - and we on rare occasions even quarrel.
    We almost always end up with an agreement, which satisfies us both.
    But if not, Larissa decides what is to be done.
    And I always accept her decisions.
    Not just because I in our wedding ritual many years ago promised to "elske, tjene og adlyde Larissa" ("love, serve and obey Larissa"), but because I am convinced that endless discussions, quarrels and strife ultimately ruin a marriage.

    It is much better that one person has the right to make the final decision, and thereby ending the discussion.

    I know that I have to obey Larissa, and she knows that she has to use her power in a responsible and loving way, with Larissa always does and always has done.

    And strange as it may sound, although I know that Larissa is in most respects superior to me, I as I have repeatedly said never feel inferior together with Larissa.
     
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    Interesting reading. As we can see, matriarchy can be cruel.

    If normal people from a neighboring village from Christian-patriarchal society not stop it, circumcision would be the norm in this community. And certainly in the future, this matriarchal community would realize also ritual castrations for some boys (as a punishment or random selection). Because in the ancient matriarchy this was also normal. That would be a natural evolution in this community. Ritual celebration of female power over male sex, sacrifice for the goddess, for sacred universal femininity, etc. The boys had very lucky that this was stopped in the beginning.
     
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    Thank you so much for sharing that . Extremely interesting
     
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