90-120 days of denial - but why?

Very interesting.
Never seen anything about chastity from this perspective.

 

You've done lots of research clearly. I tend to think a much smaller timescale is best first off, allowing you to work up to something longer. The danger is that otherwise you can get discouraged.

 

From the medical and psychological points of view, a month is sufficient to understand and get the benefits, both from the hormonal aspects and the habit forming aspects.
Of course, once you've managed to do a month, you're then able to do any longer length of time.
It's getting past the two/three week barrier that's the thing.

 

Not sure I would have led with the sperm production argument. The whole cycle might take 2-3 months, but it’s not like you’re empty and then you’re suddenly full, it’s being produced constantly. Also, what about men who’ve had a vasectomy. I guess I’m always full since my sperm can’t escape.

Totally agree on the bits about how long it takes to create a new habit (or replace a bad habit ie. porn/masturbation). I’ve definitely found that to be true both in chastity and other non sex related facets of life.

I still haven’t gone a full month, my longest is 3 weeks a few times - gotta build up to the 90-120 days, I think my KH likes PIV too much to go that long but we’ll see.

 

i think a first lock up period should be anywhere from 7-21 days. Much depends on your KH and her attitude to the experience. If she is just going thru the motions, you will be bored and time wont matter. If she keeps it interesting, it could be torturous. I will use my wife as an example. during the summer her work schedule is easier and between our pool and hot tub she is a little more attentive. She can tease and deny me a bit more and a week will feel like a year to me. On a Saturday and Sunday by the pool, I will have pleased her at least 2X during the day, one at night, and she will be rubbing and squeezing my cage and balls. By the time we go to bed, I question how long it has been since my last orgasm. Winters is a little different, our play times are not a frequent.

I have been on 3 100 plus day journeys and after a while you hardly notice the time. For one my wife was gone from most of the time so being locked up didn't feel too bad. The same for the second, except she did tease me some and had me watch her and her GF together. For the third one, while locked for 122 days, she did give me 3 caged orgasms plus some milkings along the way. This one I found more difficult because I was always looking for the next relief.

An orgasm after 100 days, I felt like my head fell off. My wife took off my cage, licked my shaft a few times, gave me 2 good suck, and it took only 3 strokes for me to pop.

 

as per some video :

It takes 64 days from a cell to became a sperm cell. and it is stored into the epididymis.
so a full load takes 64 days and as production is constant you will have new sperm cell every days for 2 months.
If you stay chaste for around 64-128 days you cover all cycles of creation of sperm cells. It is reabsorbed at 3 to 5 days when not used or evacuated (leaked or milked). if not unloaded apparently the production reduce a little in volume but if you wank a lot it increase a lot as it is stimulated.
You also need 74 days to mature completely. So I guess a retention of 1 week makes you full of ready to go load and a retention of 74 days or more (2.5 months) makes you overloaded. More time to that is an elimination of the surprlus and the dry out of the existing semen.

I also read that up to 6 weeks are needed to migrate into epididymis: https://uhs.princeton.edu/health-resources/mens-health

So a good recommendation should be 74 days + 6 weeks to be sure to be a little dried out of production. That is 116 days to be sure and on average.

I also read 2 school of sex, men being impotent by too much masturbation, like 10 time a day for long periods, they can't even get hard anymore. or permanent chastity that makes you super horny until your hormones (testosterone) levels drops.

 

If you want it to really set the scene for an FLR, the keyholder should set some rules for expected behavior during the lockup, and the break-in period starts from the beginning if any of them are broken.

The most basic rule is that asking for release, whining or complaining about chastity, or talking about chastity without permission will always start the time again no matter what the excuse.

My wife used this method for a lot of different things, and I can say that it was intensely effective in pushing me into submission.

 

I fully appreciate the depth of thought here I’ve been in pursuit of and living a chaste lifestyle in loving FLR for 1.5 years since I lost my soul mate, but gained a real friend whom I’m in this new adventure with my Goddess Sherrie.

 

This is my experience as well

 

It depends.

Are you trying to change a habit that was formed during a person's childhood involving the reward center of the brain and then was repeated frequently throughout life? Is this behavior going to be replaced with a new, healthier behaviors that are going to be repeated frequently to create new pathways in the brain? Do you have a partner to help you through the process and actively participate with the habit replacement or are you doing this solo?

 

Why not? I don’t get the obsession with being locked for a certain amount of time. My Madam has never told me the amount of time I will be caged/locked for. And if I did ask she would then increase It even more!
Madam taught me to just accept my place as being locked 14/7 regardless.

 

We have experimented with 1-50 days over the years but I am now 90 days into our agreed zero orgasm lifestyle. I have lost 10 lb and she 20 lb as she has motivation to look amazing, is wearing more revealing clothes and feeling very very sexy. There is no going back for us.

 

Back when I used to be unlocked once in a while, my wife's attitude was that anything less than three months wasn't being serious. She liked to make sure I was aroused and passionate all the time. I never knew how long it would be, but three to six months was the norm, no matter what.

 

That long feels different. The first days and weeks feel super horny. It’s like extended foreplay. Then it calms down, and real life interjects itself in various ways, so it takes discipline at those points. And your partner’s interests come and go too. It’s crazy intense at some points, and boredom at others. Eventually I don’t become as easily aroused spontaneously but super aroused when she seems interested.

 

How long have you been beyond 120 days when your cage came off recently? A few weeks? If I remember your previous posts correctly.

 

I am still new to this topic and I have seen, that you mentioned scientific ressources a few times. I would be interested in the amount how often this applies. I see a lot of variables like age, fitness, emtional engagement, mindfullness and meditation, all possible and impossible biasses. A few peoples here are beyond a year in chastity.
Can there be a scientific approach to analyse the data from participants here? And for which purpose? A better way to life in chastity together? Bargaining between pyhsical necessities and the demand of maintaining male chastity?
Is that just a keyholder's phantasy?

 

It seems a bit more intense, but the largest change is how I view and feel about my wife! Her orgasims and pleasure become the goal. It's like getting glasses after years of bad eyesight. The acts of romance, little flirtations, and genuine/no obligation acts of service are a pleasure.

 

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Sometimes I'd just like to crawl around inside the mind of women yours that and see what makes them tick. Especially otherwise vanilla wives. I get the dominant wives like Subsnggler's, but Vanilla is a lot harder for me to fathom. The way they are so passionate about chastity but not most other kink is fascinating to me.

 

I agree there is not a lot of science. And the pop/pseudoscience gets pretty limited to individual experiences that can get over generalized. For most people, interest in sex goes up and down, even if the specific interest is erotic denial games. For me, it’s like a spice that helps, but appetite is still based on many other things.

 

Mrs Edge does not identify as kinky, nor does she see what we do as anything overly unusual. Sex - that is, foxing - when we have it is generally missionary. No leather, no handcuffs, no toys. Note that she does not consider the Vixskin to be a "toy".

She is frustratingly unintrospective about it and I've had to stop asking her. All I get is "I just like what I like. Why do you have to keep over thinking it?"