20 Lost gentleman traditions that still apply today

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    I saw this article online and thought it might apply here...

    When you first try to introduce chastity to your wife/girlfriend/partner, instead of thinking how many unwanted orgasms you can give her, why not try to show her it makes you more of a gentleman. Then she might take more of an interest in it : )


    1. He stands when she walks in the room
    In the old days, men stood out of respect when a lady walked in the room. It was a sign of respect and humbleness. Standing shows you are attentive and you care.


    2. He walks by her on the outside, closest to the street
    Before our drainage systems, a man stood on the outside of the sidewalk in a long coat to protect her from the dust and water that could splash up as horse carriages passed by. A man laying his coat over a puddle for her to walk over meant he was protecting her feet.

    Today, a gentleman might stand in the way of puddles splashing up from buses, or in the event a car veers onto the sidewalk. Symbolically it might mean he’ll always be by her side, through thick and thin, and will protect her from anything.


    3. He opens the door for her
    A gentleman would help her up into the carriage as a sign of his protection and strength. Women would hold their dresses up as they were often long and heavy. The gentleman opened the door for her so she wouldn’t have to drop her dress in the dirt.

    The modern gentleman helps her in and out of the car to stand in the way of creepy gawkers. Opening a door for her is not a sign she is weak, but a gesture of affection.


    4. He never criticises a home-made meal
    An out-loud criticism of a meal as a guest was considered disrespectful to the host. If anyone takes the time and effort to make a dinner, they are your host. Honor them. Smile and chew.


    5. He doesn’t LOL for the sake of attention
    “Frequent and loud laughter is the characteristic of folly and ill-manners…”Letters to His Son on the Art of Becoming a Man of the World and a Gentleman (1746). He might write an “LOL” over text in the present, but a gentleman doesn’t have to be loud to command attention. He commands attention through his strong character.


    6. He pulls out her chair
    It was common for the gentleman to pull out her chair and allow her to face the open room. Today, the gentleman pulls out her seat, and sits facing away from the crowd and the TV because he doesn’t want to be distracted from his priority when he forgets to take his Ritalin.


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    7. He sits after she sits
    “…and at the table wait until she is seated, indeed wait until every lady is seated, before taking your own place” The Gentlemen’s Book of Etiquette, and Manual of Politeness (1860). Talk show hosts continue this tradition today by waiting to sit until after their guest has taken their seat. If Oprah does it, so can you.


    8. He helps her put on/take off her coat
    Up through the Edwardian period, women wore multiple layers, and beneath them a restricting corset. A gentleman would help his lady put on and take off her coat because of her restricted movement.

    Corsets are not common today, but many women still enjoy the help of a gentleman.


    9. He doesn’t walk ahead of her
    Because ladies wore long dresses and could trip on them, the gentleman walked behind her when climbing a staircase. Tumbling down a flight of stairs isn’t a good way to end a date. Today, the gentleman follows this etiquette rule because she might be wearing long heels or a long dress. This is another sign of him protecting her. However, she may want him to walk up stairs first if she’s wearing a short skirt.


    10. He gives up his seat to her if there is only standing room
    A gentleman offers his seat to a lady if there are no other seats on the bus/train. I’m talking to you…the dude who wouldn’t give his seat up to the pregnant lady.


    11. He carries her bags
    A gentleman will help her carry her bags today, and when flying, will assist others in putting their luggage in the overhead compartments.


    12. He picks up the check
    An English gentleman never split the meal with his date. The English used the term “go dutch” in “derisive application,” as they stereotyped the Dutch as being cheap, or “stingy.” Today, the gentleman generally picks up the tab, especially on the first date, and with no expectations.


    13. He holds an umbrella over her when it rains
    It was common for a younger person to hold an umbrella for an older person. When it rains, the gentleman holds an umbrella over her and doesn’t mind getting a little wet (even if he’s a bigger star as demonstrated by Leo).


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    14. He gives her his jacket
    A gentleman pays attention, and if he notices her shivering, he gives her his jacket to wear.


    15. He keeps her secrets
    A gentleman will always keep a secret, especially the one entrusted to him by the woman of his dreams. Should a break-up happen, the gentleman can still be trusted.


    16. He walks her home or to safety
    A true gentleman will walk her to her car or home to this day because he’s concerned for her safety.


    17. He listens to her
    “To be a good listener is as indispensable as to be a good talker…” The Gentlemen’s Book of Etiquette, and Manual of Politeness (1860). A gentleman always listens because he wants to know her.


    18. He’s on time
    Traffic is not an excuse for being late to a date. A good man plans in advance. Don’t keep her waiting.


    19. He compliments her
    She spent a lot of time getting ready, so a gentleman always compliments. He doesn’t play on her insecurities. Negging is for creeps.


    20. A gentleman never lies.
    A gentleman is his word.
     
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    well I hope they are not lost.
     
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    Many of those items are no longer expected these days (e.g. No. 1) but all were intended to show a man's respect for a woman, which is sadly lacking all too often. I'd be very happy if they were to be incorporated into our rules as part of my submission, as I do quite a lot of them anyway without even thinking. Anyone observing us would just think I was being an old-fashioned gentlemen, without having any idea about what might be going on at home behind closed doors (and curtains).
     
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    I'm proud to say I do most of those things for my wife. I'm disappointed to say I need to work on doing them without fail. For instance, I usually open the car door for my wife, but sometimes we are busy loading things in the car and she just gets in herself.
     
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    Perhaps kneeling might be an acceptable alternative for Number 1?
     
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    No, 20 may not always be compatible with No.4.
     
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    If you can't say something nice, don't say anything : )
     
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    Saying nothing is not always an option, so a lie comes in handy now and then.
     
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    That is exactly how I was raised.
     
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    I won't say they're lost, but they're not that common.

    Some of us though were raised to be a gentleman so they're automatic and we don't think about them, we simply do them.
     
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    In the "old days" those were pretty much the tenets that a man would subscribe to. It was part of one's role in a relationship and in society in general. Some woman's libbers would get all bent out of shape if one would offer up a seat to a woman not known to him. The comment would come down "are you suggesting that I am weak and can not stand up myself?" There are other examples but I'm probably in enough trouble all ready. Much of the loss of "gentlemanly behavior" was due to women being nasty over a genuinely decent act. Shame we have to be reminded of how to be a gentleman.
    Foot note: my answer to the libber remark was "well actually your ass is so big I figured your legs must be tired from trying to hold it up"
     
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    I will agree with all of them except #6. I pull out and hold her chair for her when she is not in her wheel chair but I try to sit facing the bulk of the room and the door. This comes to protecting her. Unless we go somewhere that I am restricted, I am always armed and I want to see a threat early enough to give myself the maximum reaction time.

    I was raised to do most of those things but have gotten out of the habit over the years. I am trying to get back into them.

    Thundar, I have run into that on opening doors. I just smile and let go of the door.
     
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    #13 L-u-c-y, Dec 4, 2018
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    The women's libbers should have just said "No thank you".

    My post is more about partners behaviour, not strangers.

    I wouldn't expect a stranger to give up their bus seat for me, unless I were pregnant.
     
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    I was surprised at how many of the things on the list are things I do for my wife and never really thought about. Many of them just seem like common sense behavior.
     
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    Some of the things on the list should carry over to strangers if one is a gentleman
     
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    When I became involved in this scene I assumed male subs would be the most gentlemanly of all men. It didn't quite work out that way, but I have found a few.
     
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    I grew up in the day where these things were drummed into us from childhood and I have done most of them very naturally over the years. Since being in the FLR (and being Her private SIssy), I continue to do them out of respect for Her. Recently, when walking together on a city street, I naturally went to Her curb side to walk and She informed me that, since I am now Her sub, I should be to Her right and a step behind and so I have adapted accordingly. I love this Woman!
     
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    I don't do 1 or 6. The others - mostly, yes.
     
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    I was raised to do those things anyways, not just for my wife either. With kids, a few of those are difficult, like opening the car door with a child in one arm and groceries in the other, but still do on dates and when we are alone.
    As for the bus seat, I will always give it up for a woman, elderly, or even dudes with their arms full.
    I also play volleyball weekly and if I am walking out and a female teammate or friend is about to leave, I will wait and walk them out, especially at night!
    This list should be called common human decency and should extend beyond chastity too!
     
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    So true they have been lost, but it can return
     
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    I don't think they have all been lost. I do at least 13 of them on a regular basis. Hope that's not unlucky !!
     
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    Awesome, love it. Do you have a link to the original article perhaps?
     
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    Like many others here I was brought up to do all these, and some. In restaurants my wife particularly expects me to be closest to a draughty door, and to face a wall so she can look around from the other side of the table. As I always let her go first it has led to some interesting results; once when queueing for a show where we had guest but not guaranteed-entry tickets she got in then the doors were slammed as the place was full and we were separated all evening.
     
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    Not lost at all. Quality, respectful gentlemen are getting scarce though. I practice every item on the list when appropriate.

    But then, I am a romantic.

    Also, when dinning out, always give her the best chair at the table.
     
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    Well let's not confuse the first wave of feminism with the 3rd wave. 1st wave just wanted equal treatment and equal rights. The 3rd wave decided they didn't need men and contributed further to a generation of confused kids. Being a gentlemen means you see through that and be the best you can be as a man and human.
     
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    So sad that these have to be stated now. It should be automatic for all men, not just submissive ones like on this site. I do all these things. I even give up my seat on a train for a lady, any lady, not just a pregnant one. It was how I was raised. It is common courtesy.
    (Incidentally, I would also give up my seat for a man if he was an older one who clearly needed to sit down more than I did. Manners truly maketh the man, in every respect.)
     
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    You know what pisses me off? When you hold the door open for a stranger and they don't even acknowledge you, much less say thank you.

    I had a boss I'd pass in the hallway often and I'd always say 'hello' and he'd just stare and not respond. There was only one employee of his that he always did greet, and it pissed me off no end. Then finally there came the day where I could do a minor version of 'call in rich' . Of course it was important to me that I manage to squeeze 6 years of annoyance into one quit. I successfully translated all that salt for a few thousand extra in parting cash just for shits-and-giggles. Politeness matters.
     
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