Symbolic? Or Actual Masturbation Deterrent?

Discussion in 'Chastity and orgasm denial' started by Lazlo Toth, Apr 26, 2021.

Random Thread
  1. Lazlo Toth
    Offline

    Lazlo Toth C/D on the TomAllen-Rectrix scale: 9/9

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2019
    Messages:
    2,831
    Likes Received:
    4,738
    Trophy Points:
    143
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Contractor
    Location: (Country, Region - and perhaps even City?):
    Upstate South Carolina
    Local Time:
    1:47 AM
    Some of our members are on the honor system. Some are locked full-time......er....permanently. While many others are somewhere in between.

    My question is this: How much--or how little--does a chastity device actually keep you from masturbating?

    If you are on the honor system and successful with it, the device has no use at all in the prevention of masturbation. For others, any time they are out of the cage they are bound to masturbate.

    For me personally, the device IS the sufficient deterrent. When I am locked, I don't masturbate--nor try. But when I am left unlocked for any significant period of time, I will figure out an opportunity to toss one off.

    How about y'all? Is the device the deterrent? Or is the device symbolic?

    Laz
     
  2. Guest 2684
    Offline

    Guest 2684 Long term member

    Joined:
    May 18, 2020
    Messages:
    1,636
    Likes Received:
    1,773
    Trophy Points:
    143
    Local Time:
    3:47 AM
    I think the device is a deterrent. I am currently free and on the honor system. But what keeps me from cheating is being truthful to my love and why she would do to my penis If she was unhappy
     
    attistoC likes this.
  3. Tom Allen
    Online

    Tom Allen Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2008
    Messages:
    2,305
    Likes Received:
    11,733
    Trophy Points:
    143
    Gender:
    Male
    Location: (Country, Region - and perhaps even City?):
    Southern New England
    Home Page:
    Local Time:
    4:47 AM
    Chastity devices are only a partial deterrent. Non-pierced guys can usually pull out under given conditions. Unpierced guys can usually hold a vibrator to the cage. Even full steel belts have been defeated by powerful vibrators, especially if the guy is aroused enough.

    What keeps these devices working is the "willing suspension of disbelief." Most of us reading this presumably want to be kept denied because we find it to be fun, for different reasons. To make it more fun, we run a script in our head that tells us that the device is inescapable or can't be defeated. Our satisfaction with our lives is based on how much our real life lines up with this script.

    I'm not pierced. In a hot, soapy shower, I can pull out. But I have mental and emotional reasons for not doing so. One of which is that I'm not going to break a 3+ year long streak. :cool: But also, at 62, I'm a grown adult, and I've had over 20 years experience being locked up, and I'm able to resist a little temptation.
     
  4. SissyKayli
    Offline

    SissyKayli Active member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2021
    Messages:
    75
    Likes Received:
    59
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Gender:
    Male
    Location: (Country, Region - and perhaps even City?):
    US
    Local Time:
    1:47 AM
    My device is a pretty good deterrent. It’s very difficult to get back in after pulling out. So yes, I could pull out and cum, but it’s really hard to get back in correctly - so any inspection and I’d be caught, besides the discomfort on being not correctly situated in there.
    I can come from a magic wand, but all the other vibes just feel good but I can’t quite get there. As such, I’ve told my goddess to lock up the magic wand from me.
     
    Ron33 and PricessKitten like this.
  5. HisFreakySide
    Offline

    HisFreakySide Long term member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2020
    Messages:
    201
    Likes Received:
    504
    Trophy Points:
    103
    Gender:
    Male
    Local Time:
    3:47 AM
    I have zero self-control without the cage, so chastity serves as a pretty good deterrent. It's nice to have it as a reminder any time I'm tempted to fiddle with myself.
     
  6. StubHub
    Offline

    StubHub Long term member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2021
    Messages:
    2,023
    Likes Received:
    1,606
    Trophy Points:
    143
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location: (Country, Region - and perhaps even City?):
    Central iowa
    Local Time:
    3:47 AM
    I have not cheated the honor system but she really likes me in CK Micro cage.

    I have gone months without masturbation on honor system but the micro removes the option and I wear it for her.

    Currently masturbation at her direction has failed to climax. The only orgasm was a failed one after she rode me externally rubbing me off and only then with her attention to my breasts and nipples. She stopped all motion as I started creating I guess my first ruined orgasm. Told me then that would take care of me for a year or more. With a grin and chuckle.
     
    O2beyoursub likes this.
  7. WillieBDenied
    Offline

    WillieBDenied All men should be locked

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2021
    Messages:
    384
    Likes Received:
    633
    Trophy Points:
    103
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Software
    Location: (Country, Region - and perhaps even City?):
    San Diego, CA
    Local Time:
    1:47 AM
    It doesn't keep you from masturbating - unless you want it to, that is. It just keeps you from masturbating in the traditional, enjoyable way as with a full erection and contact with your penis. What I mean by that is, if you really want to, you can pull, twist or vibrate the cage enough to come... in most cases I think. Not all, but most cases. Is it the same? No. But can you get off? Sure.

    Of course there will be people who tell you they can't get off that way, and that's probably true, but that's not my point. My point it is that your can still "masturbate" in some way regardless.
     
    Perverspepere and cagedfellow like this.
  8. Lazlo Toth
    Offline

    Lazlo Toth C/D on the TomAllen-Rectrix scale: 9/9

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2019
    Messages:
    2,831
    Likes Received:
    4,738
    Trophy Points:
    143
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Contractor
    Location: (Country, Region - and perhaps even City?):
    Upstate South Carolina
    Local Time:
    1:47 AM
    It sounds like the device is mostly a symbol for you then.
     
  9. Lazlo Toth
    Offline

    Lazlo Toth C/D on the TomAllen-Rectrix scale: 9/9

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2019
    Messages:
    2,831
    Likes Received:
    4,738
    Trophy Points:
    143
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Contractor
    Location: (Country, Region - and perhaps even City?):
    Upstate South Carolina
    Local Time:
    1:47 AM
    To clarify: I am asking about YOU. YOUR experience and belief. Is the device a deterrent or a symbol?

    To Tom, it seems a symbol. He knows well and good he can "defeat" his device.
    To me, it's a deterrent. No matter how hard I tried, I could not manage to make myself cum with the device attached to me. Even "slipping out", the nuisance of having the rest of it hanging on my balls prevents me from getting the job done.
     
    Headtrip, corsac and Isopropylforyou like this.
  10. StubHub
    Offline

    StubHub Long term member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2021
    Messages:
    2,023
    Likes Received:
    1,606
    Trophy Points:
    143
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location: (Country, Region - and perhaps even City?):
    Central iowa
    Local Time:
    3:47 AM
    For me definently a symbol. I would remain chaste for her regardless. She has the control of my orgasmic options which is what we both want.
     
    Barefeet likes this.
  11. Tom Allen
    Online

    Tom Allen Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2008
    Messages:
    2,305
    Likes Received:
    11,733
    Trophy Points:
    143
    Gender:
    Male
    Location: (Country, Region - and perhaps even City?):
    Southern New England
    Home Page:
    Local Time:
    4:47 AM
    For me, it's a mostly symbolic deterrent, although the cage does prevent the "It's 2am and I can't get back to sleep, maybe a quick wank would help" wanking.

    It can certainly be both.

    As I like to say, a wedding ring is also symbolic. How well does that work?
     
    Barefeet, JackStrap, corsac and 2 others like this.
  12. Giles_English
    Offline

    Giles_English Chaste slave

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2011
    Messages:
    1,846
    Likes Received:
    1,924
    Trophy Points:
    133
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Slave
    Location: (Country, Region - and perhaps even City?):
    UK
    Home Page:
    Local Time:
    8:47 AM
    When I am horny, I feel submissive so can't take off the device. When I'm not horny, I am submissive so don't want to.
     
  13. JaySaysYes
    Offline

    JaySaysYes I identify as someone that is always right

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2020
    Messages:
    3,000
    Likes Received:
    5,450
    Trophy Points:
    143
    Gender:
    Female
    Local Time:
    9:47 AM
  14. Isopropylforyou
    Offline

    Isopropylforyou Long term member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2020
    Messages:
    556
    Likes Received:
    860
    Trophy Points:
    103
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Seeker of Truth and Knowledge.
    Location: (Country, Region - and perhaps even City?):
    Texas
    Local Time:
    3:47 AM
    For me it is both.

    Before my near death at the hands of COVID I was in the honor system. I was under control with my will alone.

    After the experience, I just could stop myself.

    I bought a cage to get to stop.

    I am addicted to the endorphin rush and I need help.

    I promised myself and my Wife I would do this.

    However, the more I wear it, the more of a symbol it is becoming.

    So for me it started out as a deterrent and over the last few weeks it has transformed into a symbol of my promise and commitment.

    Iso.
     
    Barefeet, Lazlo Toth and cagedfellow like this.
  15. cagedfellow
    Offline

    cagedfellow Long term member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2021
    Messages:
    152
    Likes Received:
    837
    Trophy Points:
    103
    Gender:
    Male
    Location: (Country, Region - and perhaps even City?):
    Canada, Québec
    Local Time:
    4:47 AM
    Same thing here. But I need a lot of strength of mind in some occasions and I feel that my cage is not enough.

    As @Tom Allen said, it's both for me too. But more as a deterrent.

    If I had a bad day at work or anger with my wife, masturbation at home in front of the computer is a strong relaxation. So it has to be a strong deterrent.

    Other days, I take of my cage for shaving, fully horny with fully control of myself. I guess those days would be more symbolic as without cage I would be ok.

    So I'm completely unpredictable. Having it 24/7 is the way to go.

    Even if it can be defeated too, I would feel way more deterrent with a PA.
     
    Lazlo Toth likes this.
  16. elias
    Offline

    elias 7/7 on the TomAllen-Rectrix scale

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2019
    Messages:
    284
    Likes Received:
    353
    Trophy Points:
    73
    Gender:
    Male
    Local Time:
    10:47 AM
    Device is sufficient not to masturbate. No device means temptations which become more difficult to resist. My biggest issue is when wearing the cage on and off. Most often my Love prefers unrestricted access during the night, so wearing my cage 12-18 hours a day. When getting awake it is then difficult not to touch and I should put on the cage before showering..... When wearing my cage 24/7, the morning wood in the cage is directly remembering my place and no desire to touch at all.
     
    Lazlo Toth likes this.
  17. HusbandX
    Offline

    HusbandX Long term member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2020
    Messages:
    634
    Likes Received:
    964
    Trophy Points:
    103
    Gender:
    Male
    Local Time:
    9:47 AM
    Locks keep honest people honest, and are therefore, symbolic. Locks are no deterrent to those who would bypass them.

    If one doesn't wish chastity, what is one doing there?

    If one does wish chastity, what is one doing attempting to escape or bypass the illusion?
     
  18. Lazlo Toth
    Offline

    Lazlo Toth C/D on the TomAllen-Rectrix scale: 9/9

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2019
    Messages:
    2,831
    Likes Received:
    4,738
    Trophy Points:
    143
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Contractor
    Location: (Country, Region - and perhaps even City?):
    Upstate South Carolina
    Local Time:
    1:47 AM
    THAT is a brilliant summary!

    I certainly agree with the points made by the responders. It is truly both a symbol and a deterrent. The replies helped me get an idea of where on the continuum many of us are on.
     
  19. NEsubhub
    Offline

    NEsubhub Long term member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2021
    Messages:
    186
    Likes Received:
    1,505
    Trophy Points:
    123
    Gender:
    Male
    Location: (Country, Region - and perhaps even City?):
    USA Nebraska
    Local Time:
    3:47 AM
    Currently: a symbol. Future: Deterrent.
    At the moment I am unlocked. It's way to easy for me to pull out and cheat. Though I have resisted that temptation in the past, I don't want it to even be an option anymore. Honestly, I don't want to put the cage back on until I'm pierced.
     
    Rectrix and Lazlo Toth like this.
  20. cagedfellow
    Offline

    cagedfellow Long term member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2021
    Messages:
    152
    Likes Received:
    837
    Trophy Points:
    103
    Gender:
    Male
    Location: (Country, Region - and perhaps even City?):
    Canada, Québec
    Local Time:
    4:47 AM
    I cheated one time inside my cage. That destroyed everything in my mind about my chastity. I was very sad.

    I gave it a break until I kind of reset my mind.

    Now I'm back but eventually, I want a PA too.
     
    Rectrix and NEsubhub like this.
  21. NEsubhub
    Offline

    NEsubhub Long term member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2021
    Messages:
    186
    Likes Received:
    1,505
    Trophy Points:
    123
    Gender:
    Male
    Location: (Country, Region - and perhaps even City?):
    USA Nebraska
    Local Time:
    3:47 AM
    I've cheated with the cage on too. Using the wife's wand, I was able to orgasm fairly easily. Soon, that wasn't an option for me anymore either. The toys were locked in a box and only the wife knows the combination to the lock.
     
  22. NZSenator
    Offline

    NZSenator Long term member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2020
    Messages:
    552
    Likes Received:
    688
    Trophy Points:
    103
    Gender:
    Male
    Local Time:
    8:47 PM
    I'd say for me, the cage is both -

    Its symbolic of my commitment to my wife that she is the focus of my sexual energy, not myself.

    Its a deterrent only to the extent that it makes being horny bearable. Prior to wearing a cage, I could only go 3-5 days without an orgasm as the hornyness would mess with my sleeping and rubbing one out helped me sleep better. With the cage on, this is less an issue. My brain knows that there is something attached that prevents stimulation so the overriding urge subsides.

    I am still on "the honor system" to an extent, I have the key in my bedside draw, the cage is removed every 2-3 days for gym and shaving. Mrs Sen is still unphased by the cage, take it or leave it, but is entertaining my desire to be chaste and is enjoying extra intimacy too.
     
  23. Lazlo Toth
    Offline

    Lazlo Toth C/D on the TomAllen-Rectrix scale: 9/9

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2019
    Messages:
    2,831
    Likes Received:
    4,738
    Trophy Points:
    143
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Contractor
    Location: (Country, Region - and perhaps even City?):
    Upstate South Carolina
    Local Time:
    1:47 AM
    I sure do identify with you Senator!
     
  24. Xileh
    Offline

    Xileh Happily Serving

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2018
    Messages:
    1,387
    Likes Received:
    2,665
    Trophy Points:
    143
    Gender:
    Male
    Local Time:
    1:47 AM
    It’s a Symbolic Deterrent.

    It is a symbol of her trust, and control. That deters me from unauthorized access.
     
    Rectrix and Isopropylforyou like this.
  25. kirishima
    Offline

    kirishima Active member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2017
    Messages:
    63
    Likes Received:
    126
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Gender:
    Male
    Local Time:
    6:47 PM
    Actually for me
    With a belt and front plate added to cage can't pull out and can't shake manipulate cage to cum

    Wand can do it but not pleasant
    Wife has locked wand away anyway

    I cum only when she desires and that's rarely and always in the cage.
    The pens pulses, nothing comes , and then finally a dribble
    Not very satisfying but I'll take it
     
    JackStrap likes this.
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice