Chastity tubes/cages... Closed compared with Open or Spiral

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    I'm in the process of looking at cages with a view to considering acquiring a new one either off the shelf or perhaps having one made.

    We often describe the pros and cons of a newly acquired device but what about comparing them.

    I am annoyed that so many devices look good but have strange holes in them where by now manufacturers must have realised some people don't want them. The slots on the shaft like some of the millars cbxxxx ones had the slot a the end the pee or PA slot is often considered too big. These slots are often the cause of escaped skin getting trapped or piched often painfull and for some reason almost always when most inconvenient. What are those holes in the side for like on the Holy Trainer no clearly bvious reason I know of.

    I see a lot of pictures of people wearing some very open tubes and even spiral ones which are what I would call very open designs all of which consequently appear to allow varying degrees of access to wearer and KH.

    Are these open devices up to the job given the available access?

    Do they whilst obviously allowing some stimulation (far more that a closed tube) prevent stimulation to orgasm.
    I heard tell at one time it was claimed that you couldn't cum in any Lori, perhaps its still claimed.

    Is that true it seems unlikely but I am seeking to become better informed?

    Lori's tubes are supposed to be rated very highly but there is a very open nature to all of all her devices and some to me look pointless when it comes to preventing stimulation other than to deny intercourse and a simple NO from your partner would do that.

    The spiral ones are in a sense open along most or all their length do they still work?
    And how do you explain the profile that may be perceived through what ever you are wearing?

    I was hoping people would please share with me any insights you may have on these designs and your thoughts on them, particularly with longer term periods of being locked in mind.
     
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    I think open vs. closed is a trade off between security, weight, and cleaning. And it depends on what kind of stimulation you need to climax. Closed tubes gotta be more secure but harder to clean.

    I bought a Lori #8C, which is a very open PA "tube". My main method for masturbation is stroking the shaft and I can't do that in this device. There is just not enough movable skin. However, after a couple months I discovered that I could climax by rubbing the underside of my glans. I ordered a new version from Lori with more bars on the underside. This will be more secure because I won't be able to fit my fingers in. I might be able to fit something else in and might be able to get enough stimulation to climax. I don't know.

    So as for the myth that you can't climax in a Lori, it is just a myth and I'm the counter example - though I'm sure there are more. But I'm also sure that Lori makes devices I could not climax in. Same for any device.

    I'm now wearing an eVotion. Per their instructions I got it quite short (and it is comfortable). So it leaves more of my shaft exposed and I recently discovered that I can climax by stroking my shaft. This device has more coverage around my glans and I don't think I could climax by stimulating there - but I have not tried. Once I'm back in the Lori I'll work on getting a modified eVotion that is longer. And I'll have him design is so access to the glans is limited.

    As to your question about "profile" I assume you are wondering about the bumps created by the bars showing through pants. I wear loose pants so this is not a problem. I think size of the device is a significant factor. My flaccid penis is fairly large. I have an MCM contender sized for that but does become visible when I sit cross legged. The bars create visible ridges. A smooth device would create a more explainable bulge. The Holy Trainer in my photo is smaller and what bump it creates is less noticeable and smooth anyway. But that device is too small for me. So if you can make a small device work visibility won't be a problem, even with bars and bumps. The Lori and eVotion are "tubes" and so lay flat against my body.

    So it is taking us a while to find the right balance of security vs. comfort. We started with more open designs because M liked the idea of being able to tease me through the openings and I liked the idea of easy cleaning. Budget allowing, eventually we may have a collection of devices that offer various levels of security.
     
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    It's possible to get off in any device given a powerful enough vibrator. Also, stimulate the tip of your dick for long enough using Q-tip and something is bound to happen. However, the snugger the device, the less pleasant this experience. So cage/tube choice doesn't really matter.

    Cages are more hygienic and thus better for long term wear, which is why I prefer them.

    In terms of profile, cage bars might be visible through tight underwear, I suppose. However, what really matters is the locking system. Devices that don't have magic lockers can be a bit like having your man parts rammed into the rear of an Imperial Star Destroyer! Padlock and locking post create a big super structure.

    Magic lockers are much less visible.

    I'd say my device is not visible under even tight jeans. Pictures and description here.
     
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    Vinny Locked up again. Starting year 6.

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    You can orgasm in anything with a vibrator or sticking a swab into an opening. I do not need to be erect to have an orgasm. All those who think they cannot masturbate when locked are either fooling themselves, living their fantasy life online or really do not know If they do not know they will soon find out.

    Once I learned that a chastity device was useless unless I wanted to be denied and I refrained from masturbating, I got an open cage design because it was easier to keep clean and did not enclose my penis is a hothouse that stank real quickly and was difficult to clean. These days it seems that mostly single young men are getting into chastity for no more reason than they read or saw it in porn and developed a fetish about it while masturbating. That is how I got attracted to it, but am married. I always thought it was odd that I got into orgasm denial by masturbating to it in porn. When I actually tried it all of a sudden there was a strong urge to orgasm that was not there in my fantasy. After the initial excitement wears off is when most guys quit chastity. Some will keep at it by looking for escape and masturvation proof chastity devices in the hopes that they can force themselves to not do what they want to do. There is no such animal as you are learning for yourself. I tell guys all the time that chastity only works if you have the willpower not to masturbate, locked or not.
     
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    I've found that for me a cage the is sufficiently narrow will prevent me from becoming fully erect no matter the design. While I may be able to use a vibrator to achieve orgasm these orgasms are (again, for me) closer to that of a ruined orgasm in that they are not pleasurable and can be at times painful.
     
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    Nah. I can't masturbate in my MySteel belt. I can definitely in my CB3000. Wife puts a lock in the electric plug though, that's the only way I've been able to.

    Not the most pleasant of sensations anyway.
     
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