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    #1 herbieham, Jun 8, 2020
    Its been a long journey, but I think I can honestlt say we have reached the permanent stage

    For us that means i will never have a normal orgasm again
    What few I now earn (only abot 4 a year), are painful, ruined, bolocked squashed in the cage ones

    They are not pleasurable
    Its rare I think to live a teenager fuelled fantasy, to live the actual fantasy I used to Fap to so much as a youth, except now, of course, I cant.
    We tried full belts. (they never fit properlly)We tried piercings- (they migrated, or tore, or bled)
    We tried 6 different cages
    I found, that I could cheat, when my will power failed.

    Then I spent just 1 hour in the workshop last January
    Inescapable
    Holds the cage tight against the body
    Very comfortable, discreet.
    I ride 200 KMs a weekon a bike in it.

    And the wife tells me now she honestly does not know where she left the keys.
    The belt bit is simply electrical cable. In an emergency I can cut out my way, but that, of course, cannot be hidden

    So thats my state, no more orgasms, , permanent ( for our purposes), a life no longer fantasy, but real

    And it feels just right.
     

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    #2 Guest 2684, Jun 8, 2020
    Looks good
     
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    #5 Disciplined Boyfriend, Jun 8, 2020
    Is there any cable going under and behind or just the waist belt?
     
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    #7 Tom Allen, Jun 8, 2020
    Thanks. I wrote it up after seeing how the posts here and other forums seem to go south whenever someone says "I'm in permanent chastity." I realized that, instead of arguing over what "permanent" means, it might be easier to define the main factors that go into it; namely, how much time locked up, and the allowance or denial of orgasms.
     
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    #8 lockedforfun, Jun 8, 2020
    We're heavily bi-modal on that chart. We'll go months without any play (0/0), followed by months where it literally doesn't come off (it's stainless steel, easy to keep clean, and fits perfectly) and the only orgasms allowed are maybe once every 4-6 weeks in the cage from my wife slapping and squeezing my balls, so... 8/7? (close to 9 on the chastity scale, except I don't think she'd want me wearing it through airport security or otherwise having the secret "exposed").
     
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    #9 Tom Allen, Jun 8, 2020
    That's pretty much how we used to play. Months on, 24/7, then a break then back to it.

    We're just not taking those breaks anymore, I guess.
     
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    #10 lockedforfun, Jun 9, 2020
    Yeah, it's like a variation on the law of inertia for a my keyholder now: cocks locked up tend to stay locked up, cocks unlocked tend to stay unlocked.

    So if the unlocks go down in frequency...
     
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    #11 Tom Allen, Jun 9, 2020
    The first law of chastedynamics. A penis encaged tends to remain encaged, unless acted upon by an outside force.
     
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    #12 Disciplined Boyfriend, Jun 9, 2020
    And continuing with the parallels in classical mechanics... what happens when two locked cocks collide, do they mutually gain energy from each other? and what happens when one locked cock exerts a force on another? does that cause their keyholders to laugh at the misfortune?
     
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    Currently 8,7 hoping 8,9 in some time
     
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    #14 MissyB, Jun 9, 2020
    I like the terminology and the guidelines of the matrix. I'd guess i'm around a 6,6 or 6.7 with aims toward 7s maybe 8s. For me chastity is a tool more than anything. Thanks for sharing.
     
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    #15 kirishima, Jun 9, 2020
    Sorry been busy
    Just waist cable
    Does the job

    No pull out or pull away for me
     
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    #17 Alceste, Jun 10, 2020
    I am an (8, 10).
     
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    #18 Tom Allen, Jun 10, 2020
    8, 10 is pretty hard core.
     
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    #19 Alceste, Jun 10, 2020
    Thanks, Tom!
     
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    #20 lockedforfun, Jun 10, 2020
    Except for plastic cages, with may undergo spontaneous decaging when acted upon by interior forces.
     
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    #21 Finn-egan, Jun 10, 2020
    I've had a f
    Love the mod the OP made to the cage. As long as a ball doesn't pop free, it's a good setup.

    I've had a few plastic cages suddenly split, or the rings break apart!!!

    Currently, I have no desire to cheat if I'm unlocked for any reason. We worked first on getting me to desire being locked, and to reduce my need and desire to use my guy parts for pleasure.

    Using Toms chart, I'm an 8/7-8 I should be on milking only, but 30 years of Crohn's disease damage to the bowel has made that dream impossible. We make sure any emptying out is ruined or prevented from having or enjoying any orgasm. We also tried 6 months of no release, and I didn't have and never have had a wet dream. I leaked a fair bit of pre-cum for 5 months, then that reduced, and I ended up with what we think was prostate inflammation, and had to go back to emptying me, which sucks, because being fully orgasm free was a very pure way to live and serve my keyholder and my wife. Our goal is that I get all my pleasure from giving pleasure, without needing or wanting my own. The cage is more of a symbol or collar, and I wear one that removes the penis from sight entirely, which makes not using it much easier to deal with on a mental level.
     
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    #22 Disciplined Boyfriend, Jun 10, 2020
    Cool, I always though that the plastic coated steel wire would be ideal. To this day I cannot look at a laptop security chain without a shiver
     
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    #23 Tom Allen, Jun 10, 2020
    Which is why I'm in steel. Had quite a few of those incidents. :cool:
     
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    #24 TheRealAdam, Jun 10, 2020
    Nice chart.
    We are on a (1,7) we have no device for long term wear yet but I am being trained to resist the urges which feels great.
     
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