Flr without chastity

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    Can an FLR be successful without chastity cage ?
     
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    There is a natural synergy between FLR, chastity, and cuckolding.... but life is a buffet. If you don't want that dish leave it on the shelf and don't taste it.

    Besides, you can always have chastity without the cage. Just don't masturbate, and save your sexual energy for the partner you love. It's really that simple.
     
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    We are one of the few animals with a hand that has an opposable thumb that can actually reach their junk. Considering every species has 2 prime directives, ie survival and reproduction and considering are unique ability for self pleasure, I do understand why most of need a device, but there are many who seemed to have reached that higher plane and good for you.
     
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    Well my wife has pretty much ruled the roost for the last 33yrs of which we’ve only discovered caging and chastity in the last two. So yeah.... Im going with it can happen yes Im living proof
     
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    The answer is yes (of course) as it would be sufficient if only one couple is able to live their FLR that way.

    In my opinion and also looking at my own experience I think adding chastity to the FLR will make it easier to follow through.
    I look at chastity from two perspectives:
    1) The kinky site
    2) the power exchange site (related to FLR)

    The first one is practising chastity because it add a good portion of "Hornyness" to your life, which can spice up your relationship and also sex play.

    The 2nd one is not about the hornyness but more about that you give away the ability to practise quick satisfaction and that you will be more focussed on your partner, which is the most important part for me in an FLR.
    Additionally it will remind you who has the power and what you've promised towards your partner. Not only when it's fun being caged but even more important when you don't like/want it. It is a constant reminder and therefore I would always suggest "give it a try", if it feels right for your partner do it.
    Additionally: reading CM it seems that most people are 24/7 under chastity (fantasy vs. reality?)... but even trying it out from time to time can be great fun (... for her hopefully :)
    And one more thing:
    You should ask this question here but should leave it up to her.

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    (currently wearing a cage - of course)
     
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    Not required equipment. optional upgrade.
     
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    Imo, they aren't as separate as you think. We snicker and call it horniness, but nature does not cause a state of mind that doesn't have a purpose. Horniness is a state to maximize the male's courtship investment as described on the dreamlover 2000 website. Thus the state that tends to induce focusing on our wife's or girlfriend's needs and biologically is what most likely will result in procreation.
     
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    It is a common belief that a FLR also requires chastity. Also, that chastity requires a FLR. Of course, neither are true. They are not dependent.

    However, one often leads to the other and the practices are closely related.
     
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    of course. They are separate kinks, though there is a big crossover.
     
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    not quite sure if I can follow.
    Horniness will help to make sure that a specie will reproduce itself. Without that there would be no root cause for sex, which means extinction after one generation :confused:
    If a person is really horny, he will mostly looking at his own interest satisfying this need (if he is not in a FLR ... (of course)).

    I agree that chastity is more of a kink, but a FLR isn't, because the R stands for Relationship which is far more than just having a personal preference in sex (kink). A kink is just a sexual taste, while a FLR is much more and it can include some kinks (like any other relationship) but it doesn't have to.

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    I think I look at this more as a science and feel that labeling something as a kink creates a disconnect from the whole dynamic of an FLR. I believe that there is reasonably good science showing that orgasm denial has a deep biological motivation to procreate which leads to the attributes associated with courtship, ultimately putting the female first. Any nature show, demonstrating what most males in the animal kingdom go through to secure passing their genes into the gene pool, practically creates a FLR version in that species. Watch a male bird put insane levels of recourses into building a fancy nest, doing absurd dances, and bird calls for often months trying to attract a female, you can't help be see similarly what men go through to secure a mate, but once achieved, we tend to loose our motivation if we have the ability to self pleasure.

    Most animals can't masturbate,....with some exceptions, thus they can't short circuit the hormonal forces that push a male into the efforts necessary to please a female for procreation. A chastity device simply stops the short circuit that human males are capable of, because our junk is within arms length, we have hands, not hoofs, and the cherry on top....opposable thumbs, creating a grip practically designed for pleasure. That is why I don't see a chastity device as a kink, no more than a damn acting to block the flow of water to create electrical power as anything, but a scientific way to store and generate power.

    Male masturbation is a common male behavior that allows self satisfaction and prevents putting our full commitment into our relationship. I don't think masturbation is bad outside of a committed relationship, but knowing how common masturbation is in committed relationships, you can't help be see a chastity device as simply a tool, not a kink.
     
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    we'll agree to disagree
     
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    Yes I think they can be mutually exclusive of each other.

    some people have FLR without even contemplating chastity.

    some people have chastity in their vanilla relationships for a bit of fun occaisionally.

    life’s a spectrum.
     
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