Why Do Folks think Chastity Makes You Calmer

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    All of the empirical evidence shows that semen retention leads to massive build up of TESTOSTERONE and CORTISOL (the stress hormone). This is something self-improvement gurus in the No-Fap community recommend to the BONE IDLE to help them GET SHIT DONE. It is something entrepeneurs do, something MMA fighters and Boxers do before a match, something that masculine men do everywhere to develop COMPETITIVE AGGRESSION. They do not wear a cage because they are working on SELF-DISCIPLINE.

    Wearing a cage is EROTIC for many male submissives because it DELEGATES CONTROL to the FEMININE. But the OUTCOME is to build stress and tension through SEXUAL FRUSTRATION. If you are not doing something productive to BURN OFF sexual ENERGY you are not going to LAST VERY LONG.

    Everyone knows that you can use a vibrator or stimulate the prostrate while wearing a chastity device. Everyone knows that you can take a PAIR OF BOLTCUTTERS and take off the damn lock any time the dominant decides to play HEAD GAMES. The point of having a Mistress is having an ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNER to where there is RECIPROCATED ATTRACTION, mutual TRUST and someone who will help you develop a bond through NURTURING your progress through SEMEN RETENTION and the DRIVE to do something PRODUCTIVE.

    FANTASY =/= REALITY. Talk with your partner about your GOALS in the pursuit of SEXUAL ABSTENTION. Dopamine addiction and EDGING will make abstention HARDER. Eroticising chastity is FUN but it also makes the process MORE DIFFICULT TO COMPLETE. Chastity does not make you calm, it is a STRESSOR.
     
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    Nicoftime The suspense is terrible...I hope it lasts

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    For you maybe.

    Knowing I am more than likely not getting unlocked has many outcomes. Yes if I am all worked up and thinking I may get unlocked I am at a heightened state, but that immediately disappears once the reality of staying locked sinks in. I calm down, my breathing returns, and I am not at all stressed in the least. That option or scenario is off the table and my mind moves on to more productive thinking and attitude.

    Your mileage may vary, and I suppose your expectations greatly influence your stress levels. I anticipate, I hope, I crave, but I don’t expect to ever be unlocked.

    Sometimes I feel more stress after an orgasm. It’s like sub drop. After spending a long time locked and I am finally released and finish, it can be stressful to know that I’ve started all over, that I may have a long ways to go instead of it being just around the corner. Then I stress if I should press my luck trying again before she has me lock back up or just do the right thing and put the device back on. Was it a good O or did I just waste my one time out on 20 seconds of fun in the morning…lots of things to stress over when before I wasn’t thinking about anything but how much I had something good about to happen any day now.

    So, it may not calm YOU down, but to say your experience is what is, well doesn’t track.
     
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    So then, RUINED ORGASMS and PREMATURE EJACULATION is probably NOT A GOOD IDEA. What's needed is SELF-CONTROL.
     
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    That did not make any sense to me
     
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    It’s not about self control, we want to be controlled by some else!
     
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    If you think it is stressful waiting around for a ruined orgasm without physical stimulation and the possibility of premature ejaculation, perhaps you should either suggest a different strategy with a reasonable partner or else not delegate full control to somebody who tyrannically refuses to permit you FULL RELEASE and REASONABLE TIME required to stimulate.
     
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    You have to be responsible for yourself, you can't delegate all responsibility for your pleasure to another and then feel denied and let down when they fuck up because you would not COMMUNICATE.

    Every relationship has healthy COMMUNICATION. If you do not tell your partner what you think domination looks like, she will not be able to OPTIMISE the experience for BOTH PARTNERS in the relationship.
     
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    Not for me cos i dont make none. The doctors when i was 15 wanted to put it in me but i wudnt have it.
     
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    Then it doesn't make any difference for you EITHER WAY.
     
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    Anyway, this DETRACTS from my point which is about the SCIENCE of TESTOSTERONE AND CORTISOL BUILD-UP. Chastity does not make you CALMER, that is EMPIRICALLY NOT VALID. Frustrated psychological expectations do not negate the CHEMICAL CHANGES in your ANATOMY. What male chastity submissives claim to experience is a PLACEBO-EFFECT.
     
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    Everyone is different. So I'm with OP and have questioned the "common wisdom".

    So I'd say as we explore we can figure out WHAT WORKS FOR YOU. What works for you may or may not work for me.

    Also as many know our thresholds change and as we adjust things can also change.
     
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    It is actually not common wisdom at all in the scientific establishment or mainstream academia but widely known that long periods of sexual abstinence increase testosterone and cortisol production that lead to increased aggression.

    I think that many men in the chastity community are low libido, low testosterone naturally - so what they think they are referring to as "calm" is actually increased excitement that high test masculine men are naturally dispositioned to experience as baseline emotion.

    For such men, exacerbating that baseline tendency is only going to increase cortisol levels beyond to a level that maximises STRESS.
     
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    What a load of drivulous nonsense.
     
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    If you cannot state a reason WHY, you are not to be taken SERIOUSLY.
     
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    I am not sure why I keep falling for it. Is it my need to show someone that everything isn’t black and white? To give a different viewpoint? But I keep falling for it.

    Your viewpoint is so selfishly driven that you cannot see another’s. You put out facts that you either made up yourself or got from the source of your choosing that agrees with your viewpoint. You obviously do not want any input from someone with differing experience and knowledge.

    I will try to stay away from the clickbait of your posts, and just assume that you are looking to get into some masculinism (not a thing) issue about the woes of manhood.
     
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    Poor argument with little evidence, that you try to boost by adding bold, caps, colours. I don't need to say more.
     
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    Then it should be EASY TO DECONSTRUCT.

    In the femdom community FEMINISTS want to DRIVE THEIR IDEOLOGY whereby a form of male submission that is just FANTASY ROLEPLAY is supposed to EXTEND INTO PERMANENT SUBJUGATION TO FEMALE SUPREMACY.

    In FEMDOM, this is DOMESTIC, FINANCIAL AND SOCIAL SUBJUGATION through FEMINISATION and CUCKOLDING BY PENIS.

    In CHASTITY FEMDOM, this is PERMANENT DEVICE CHASTITY with NO FULL RELEASE and attempting to WITHDRAW RIGHT TO CONSENT from the MASCULINIST CHASTITY SUBMISSIVE.
     
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    I"m not sure one way or the other.
    All I know is if we take all of this too seriously it can really cause issues.

    So I suggest have fun. Find out what works for you and yours and let others do the same.

    As for "science" my regular advice is to read Thomas Khun on the Social Construction of Science and for folks to understand that "science" evolves and changes as we learn and challenge what we think we know.
     
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    Shhh! You'll wake the neighbours with all that shouting
     
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    While I'm not in Birmingham, I haven't got any - I can shout as loud as I want.
     
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    BECAUSE I SAID IT, IT MUST BE TRUE!!!

    Your demonizing of feminism is a joke, and your made up charges are laughable. I’m sorry, I didn’t have the effort to write that in all caps,

    You post the most nonsensical material I’ve ever read here…and there was once a guy that wanted to squirt EZ cheese into his penis. The bar was high, but you managed to breach it!
     
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    There are many sub-categories of feminism from traditionalist feminism, to TERF-ism, to intersectional feminism, to lesbian and bisexual feminism, to female supremacy. Want to know the one thing they have in common (hint, it isn't equality)?

    Representation of the FEMININE IDENTITY
    This has always been the case - culturally, historically and politically - that feminists have ALWAYS put the feminine identity FIRST.

    WHERE do I talk about this IN-DEPTH?

    HERE.
     
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    Here?! Honestly, besides you wanting to be denied an orgasm for a few hours, I have no idea why here feels like a place to demonize feminism. Read the room. That would require self reflection and awareness…never mind.
     
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    I don't know if you meant to come off as disliking women, but that is how it is coming off. I don't disagree that there should be communication between partners and I do not believe in cruelty or mind games. Personally, I would not consider myself a feminist but I do hold my husbands key and I do enjoy doing it. It wasn't even my idea, but here I am. I am also not into cuckolding or never ending lock ups. As far as the science you talk about I have no opinion one way or the other, but the article you posted in your pictures seems to back up that you have an issue with women who choose to live the femdom life. Your profile says you are into chastity so how does this work for you? Do you have a KH? Do you tell your KH what to do? I'm just curious.
     
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    I am ASKING for EQUAL REPRESENTATION of **MASCULINIST IDEOLOGY** in MEDIA and ACADEMIA. That is ALL.

    The ARTICLE in my pictures criticises those who blame TOXIC FEMININITY on MEN.
     
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