I recently picked up a CB-3000. I'll admit I bought a knock-off (right now I'm testing this concept overall, so I'm not willing to invest good money until I'm confident I can achieve what I want) that was based off the earlier designs (hinged ring, support beams poke out the back), so it may not be fully indicative, but it's a start. Overall I'm fine with the device. Most of its complaints about comfort don't bother me, as part of my interest is masochistic. I like that erections hurt a little, and I'm sure the rub points will callous up and stop bugging me. My main problem is the most counter-productive part: I can masturbate to orgasm in this device. More than masturbate IN it, I can USE it to masturbate. If I grasp the cage and pump it I can basically use the tube of it AS a sleeve of sorts. Now it's not easy, it requires me to be pretty worked up already (but my goal was to BE frustrated in this device, so that's expected), it puts a lot of painful pressure on my balls, and I've managed to strain the device leading to visible cracks (again, good thing I bought a cheap one), but I was able to cum in the shower once using this technique (uncomfortably, and it wasn't that enjoyable, but it was an orgasm and, more importantly, a release of frustration). I've since found that if I grip the entire package as a whole and pump it, I don't even need much if any friction, can counter-act the strain on the cage, and can still get myself to the edge (I've used will power to stop there, though, but only because I had a specific end date and reward in place which is something I can't normally count on since I'm using my sub as a proxy for my own self-domination). My device has points of interest, but at least with the size I picked I find they mostly kick in more during erection rather than masturbation, and even when I do feel them during masturbation I'm already at the point where I can endure the pain if sweet release is a few seconds away. Now I imagine the mess I risk making in the tube would be a pain to clean, so I'm currently using that assumption to convince myself I can only do this in the shower, which means no porn or erotica to make it fun and no jacking off in a public restroom, but still: my goal was to reach extreme levels of frustration from lack of orgasm for the extended times I'm locked up. If I can orgasm, I've lost that. So here's my obvious question: Has anyone here who has also worn a classic-style CB-3000 and managed to masturbate in it found a way to cancel that out? Have you switched to another device that managed to work better, or modified it in some way that succeeded, or used some other trick? Or am I going to have to accept that preventing purposeful orgasm is a pipe dream in a chastity device? To clarify: My goal is to ensure for whatever period of time I've agreed with my keyholder to be locked up I can achieve erection (without excessive pain, but some is acceptable), be aroused (I have various women who will tease me mercilessly with pictures and videos and texts), be progressively more frustrated, and NOT be able to make myself cum (obviously nocturnals could occur on their own without any choice on my part). An alternative would be, if somehow possible, making masturbation so painful (and risky?) that it's not worth it to even attempt unless truly desperate without making erections bad enough to avoid.
I wear a older CB3000 and I remember moveing it back and forth to get the results you say you can. This was when we were jus starting out and were useing the larger size rings. At that time I couls slip a testical out one at a time and defeat the whole purpose...and I was useing wider spaces inbetween. Now days I am useing the next to smallest size ring without any problems and only one quarter ince between. I think once your body gets use to having it's ball sack encircled 24/7 for a couple months you will find there isn't enought movement to do this.
A custom-fitted device (not an over the counter plastic one) might help, since it sounds like you have enough room in the tube to achieve enough of an erection to make orgasm quite easy. If you're wearing something that fits your penis perfectly while flaccid, it prevents any serious attempt at an erection. And in turn, it becomes more difficult to cum. That said, no device is 100% orgasm-proof. You can get worked up enough to cum with little (or no) physical stimulation. The best you can reasonably hope for is to make it so difficult that you don't bother. It's like protecting your house against burglars. It's not possible to make your home 'burglar-proof'. But you can make it so hard to break into that it's easier to hit the neighbor's house instead. So you need to find a level of compromise that works for you.
I'm using the smallest ring size that doesn't crimp my scrotum and cause damage. But I'm nowhere near being able to slip a ball out. Presumably if I pulled my cock out of the cage I might then be able to slip a ball out, but I haven't even thought to try that yet. I'm on the slimmest spacing that seems reasonable, though, with just the points of interest and the tiniest spacer available to ensure the shortest locking rod had no movement room. Understood. At this stage, though, I really don't want to commit several hundred dollars to something I put on and can get off in in less than a week. I've also confirmed that it's not JUST friction that's my problem. While having movement and friction definitely makes it easier, with additional testing I've found that if I'm packed tightly enough that I can't move even a fraction, the pumping of the entire package will still build me up to orgasm. Maybe that's just because I've been locked up for six days now and have that level of frustration, but I'm not sure. Well, that's essentially my goal. I mean I recognize that nocturnal emissions can't be stopped, and I recognize that if I reach a high enough level of frustration it might be easy to cum without effort. A month or so ago I withheld from orgasm for five days without any mechanical assistance while waiting for my girlfriend to visit (she lives 90 miles away with her husband [poly], which is why she's such a good keyholder since we see each other only every week or two) and by the last day I felt like my underwear was going to get me off. So if that's all it is and it's ultimate frustration that's all that lets me orgasm, great, I can probably settle for that, especially if I can ensure the orgasms are extremely inconvenient, difficult, painful, and disappointing. But that's what I'm trying to figure out how to achieve and ensure is possible before I start investing more money. I was hoping for someone who's specifically been in my shoes to tell me what route they might have taken to the same.
I have reported here on this site before on my new full belt from Fetish Felix a CS-100 as several members here will testify once on and adjusted correctly you have NO access to yourself and masturbating yourself to a climax in it is not an option. You say you want a fully safe device and for that you will have to pay. The beauty of this belt maker though is if you purchase the test it cs100 and dont like it or find it doesn,t work for you just have your money back no questions! come on if you are really serious save up and try it out, no other maker offers this service to my knowledge and the belt is made to your specification and sizes exactly should you choose to keep it. My belt once on STOPS ALL my attempts at cumming with ease and has made my wifes attempts at producing spoiled orgasms very difficult if not nearly impossible to achieve.