Covid-19 and Life

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  1. Lazlo Toth
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    And speaking of giving this to women able to reproduce, pregnant women, and children....I wonder to myself what statistic will we ultimately hinge upon to declare this the worst genocidal act perpetrated on mankind?
     
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    The trigger of autoimmune deseases is very early known in covid 19. It is triggered from S-Protein in vulnerable people.
    A very good paper has been released from Rodriguez et al. in June 2020.
    Very early so to say. It shows up the different eays of infection and the pathophysiology in severe illnesses.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7296326/

    Especially the last paragraph:

    "...Current studies on SARS-CoV-2 vaccination should consider the topics we have raised here. As discussed above, bystander activation and molecular mimicry could be associated with the development of autoimmunity while antibody-dependent enhancement may be associated with severity of disease. In addition, personalized approaches including genotypification of risk genes and evaluation of risk factors for autoimmunity (i.e., familial autoimmunity) must be also considered in the current development of vaccines [194]."

    gives a hint to the autoimmune disorders to be expected in vaccines.

    Another very early work, which gives insight in the pathomechanisms, has been published from Pericas et al. also in June 2020.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7279517/

    If I remember right there are also hints for autoimmune disorders that are provoked by spikeproteins and accordingly by vaccines.

    In history, well 2009 swineflu, there have been similar findings on the vaccine against the flu.

    There was an epidemic of vaccine induced autoimmune disorders in scandinavian countries.
    It has been autoimmune narcolepsia.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26136476/

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28899018/

    In these cases it doesnt count if the viral proteins are transmitted artificial in a vaccine ( classical subunit vaccine) or via natural infection.

    In comparison to the RNA and DNA vaccines we have one strukture less, in common vaccines or viruses, that can provoke such a reaction.
     
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    You struck nothing. I just want to give you the opportunity to overthink your self and your way to communicate.

    The cox sackie virus isnt a joke. They exist as coxsackie viruses and are widely spread.
    There exist many different strains of it. If I remember right - 17 of them.
    Some of them provoke myocarditis, pericarditis and other - itis in vulnerable people.
    Mostly they just lead to an infection with effloreszenzen on the palms, feet, and mouth. You get a life long immunity usually in kindergarden. But since there are 17 or 19 of them you can get them very often.
    In Thailand and the surrounding area sometimes Epidemies with a certain strain occur, that are lethal to some of the people there.

    A person with a rudimental medical or biological background would have known it.

    The usual broad mass of non medical workers often isnt too familiar with things beside covid or scandalous things that are spread by certain platforms. Which doesnt mean that there arent experts under private persons.

    Lucy for example. She is really dedicated to clarify things about covid, and the surrounding and could be called an expert, even since she wears a certain filter on her nose, and has obviously read and understood the one and the other paper.
    Her posts are mostly informative, constructive and show nice potential for bringing your brothers and sisters here in germany on a better way.
     
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    Peer review is great when the peers have a wide range of backgrounds and opinions. When the community is closed and those in it are all funded by the same sources it becomes flawed.

    So IMHO peer review is becoming less and less of a means to ensure quality. In fact it’s becoming a means to enforce group think!

    The bad thing is peer review is another thing the far left is destroying.
     
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    You clearly have the danger of the same group effect that led us through the pandemic.
    Not mainstream equals almost the end of a scientific carreer. So scientists often dont like to speak against the mainstream.
    I have seen this in the early 2000 when it was about climate change. No money for research if the goal and description of your study didnt match the required tendency.

    But as we can see now things are getting clearer, better and several researchers, that seemingly work sober.
     
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    At the end the mob will fix it.
     
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    Lies, Lunacies and Laughable Rules of the Scamdemic
    • One of the most egregious lies spread by mainstream media hosts and health authorities like The Esteemed Little Elf and Dr. Rochelle Walensky was that the Chinese Coronavirus “vaccine” would stop the spread of infection, thereby ending the scamdemic. It was a provable lie, because none of the Chinese Coronavirus shots had ever been tested to see if they could prevent the spread of infection;
    • As hospitals filled up with “vaccinated” individuals who were supposed to be immune, the PR slogan “Pandemic of the unvaccinated” was endlessly circulated — until the reality of the situation finally became too obvious to ignore. Then, suddenly, hospitals and health authorities simply quit keeping track of Chinese Coronavirus hospitalizations;
    • The list of Chinese Coronavirus measures that were arbitrary, unscientific and plain stupid is a long one. For example, in Michigan, hardware stores that were allowed to remain open were not allowed to sell carpet, flooring, furniture, garden supplies or paint. Businesses were also prohibited from advertising any product other than “groceries, medical supplies, or items that are necessary to maintain the safety, sanitation and basic operation of residences;”
    • In South Africa, shops could only sell closed toe shoes (no sandals). In Victoria, Australia, people were prohibited from venturing more than 5 kilometers from their home, and in Great Britain, you had to order a substantial meal if you wanted a pint; and
    • Among the most laughably absurd measures were having school children play instruments wearing masks with holes cut around their mouth, or playing inside one-man tents!

    The above video above features a compilation of some of the most absurd COVID narratives we were indoctrinated with over the past three years. For example, “No one is safe until everyone is safe” was one of several lies we heard repeated across media platforms.

    First of all, there were and are vast differences in risk depending on your age and general medical history, and this was evident within weeks of the outbreak. Secondly, the data showed that 99.5% of the population would survive COVID.

    So, the reality was the complete opposite of this fabricated PR campaign slogan. Had we been told the truth, we would have been told that “Most of us are safe,” rather than “None of us are safe


    See:
    https://media.mercola.com/ImageServ...l-history-lesson-we-must-never-forget-pdf.pdf
     
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    The kids playing flutes with cut-away masks is so laughable it hurts.
     
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    A brief review of our boy Servus.

    When he disagrees:

    "Unfortunately the studies arent peer reviewed yet. And so not "valid" in scientific terms."

    When he asserts:

    "So it is an easy equation. Then it seems just logical to me, that wearing a spit protector reduces the transmission of droplets. I do not need studies for this."

    I sometimes wonder why I bother trying to reconcile my thoughts and opinions and don't instead just spew out what I FEEL and expect people to listen. It sure seems easier.
     
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    I have completed my initial analysis of US mortality data looking for the possibility of increased deaths that coincided with the period of maximum COVID-19 vaccination.

    Based on what I see, there is no large number (relative to the number of deaths caused by COVID-19) of immediate deaths, but this does not rule small numbers of deaths, or non-fatal harms.

    I'm not done, and I have started digging deeper into the data, looking for smaller changes.


    I have presented information on ages 20-49 in five year segments.

    Age 20-24

    https://twitter.com/CovidData05212/status/1657932092645453824

    Age 25-29

    https://twitter.com/CovidData05212/status/1658987064690606080

    Age 30-34

    https://twitter.com/CovidData05212/status/1659938865879343106

    Age 35-39

    https://twitter.com/CovidData05212/status/1662097031148769282

    Age 40-44 and 45-49

    https://twitter.com/CovidData05212/status/1663194086843760640


    None of this suggests lockdowns did not cause harms, as the data clearly shows marked increases in what are called External Cause deaths, like suicides and drug and alcohol related deaths.
     
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    My dear monochromatic Lazlo.

    The first quote you are posting here clearly says, that a peer reviewed article would have validity in the scientific world.
    If these articles would have been peer reviewed and the virus genomes woukd have been put into a phylogentic tree, they would light up the origin of the virus.

    Man made = lab outbreak
    Zoonosis from early december on
    Zoonosis that already circulated longer and way earlier without symptoms like in the chinese virus waves.

    And thank you for highlighting my quotes in red. It seems you are slowly leaving your black and white provaxxer world - even since nobody can read red on grey.
     
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    Israeli Data Show: Zero Young Healthy Individuals Died Of Chinese Coronavirus
    Zero healthy individuals under the age of 50 have died of Chinese Coronavirus in Israel, according to newly released data.

    “Zero deceased of 18–49 years of age with no underlying morbidities,” the Israel Ministry of Health (MOH) said in response to a formal freedom of information request request from an Israeli attorney.

    “Zero is a very, very clear number, and cannot be subject to interpretation,” Yoav Yehezkelli, a specialist in internal medicine and medical management, and former lecturer in the Department of Emergency and Disaster Management at Tel Aviv University in Israel, told The Epoch Times.

    “Why were all the extreme measures of school closures, vaccination of children, and lockdowns needed?” he added.

    See:
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/zero-...ed-of-covid-19-israeli-data-show_5293587.html




     
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    This is the latest excess death data from the CDC. They estimate 291,447 excess Non-COVID-19 deaths during the past three plus years.

    https://twitter.com/CovidData05212/status/1662147417121357825

    I did a review of currently available data to see if a paper predicting 97,000 annual excess non-COVID-19 deaths was accurate.

    https://twitter.com/CovidData05212/status/1655998405251047425

    Based on preliminary data, and these previously unpublished charts (by me), COVID-19 variants increased fetal and maternal deaths.

    pregnancy 1.jpg pregnancy 2.jpg pregnancy 3.jpg pregnancy 4.jpg miscarriages 1.jpg

    Maternal deaths began increasing in June 2021, the CDC didn't release the press release encouraging pregnant women to get vaccinated until August 11, 2021, because they were aware of this increase.

    https://twitter.com/CovidData05212/status/1658275964609232897

    Would I recommend pregnant women try an experimental vaccine, no. But then I wasn't aware of these increased maternal deaths at the time.

    The press release says the Delta variant was a new and more lethal variant.

    Vaccinated women experienced an increase in miscarriages as it became more prevalent. This may be coincidental.

    I only present observations, not proof of cause and effect.
     
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    Must be the Cox Sackie Virus.

    (You are more than forgiven for that one since English is not your native tongue.)

    Yes, I was aware of coxsackie as a tyoe of enterovirus. I just thought your choice of example was hilarious.

    It’s clear I caught you red-handed. Don’t try to gaslight us now.
     
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    #5566 Fit To Be Tied, May 30, 2023
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    Peer-Reviewed Study Finds Substantial “Sudden and Sustained” Increase in Excess Mortality in Germany in Early 2021

    A peer review study acknowledged a significant spike in excess mortality in Germany during the year 2021 and 2022. According to the paper, 2021 excess deaths were “two empirical standard deviations above the expected number” and “four times the empirical standard deviations in 2022.” The report also draws attention to a spike in stillbirths.

    By comparison, the 2020 excess deaths were “close to the expected number with respect to empirical standard deviation.” There were approximately 4,000 excess deaths in 2020.

    In 2021 and 2022, however, this number skyrocketed. The year 2021 saw around 34,000 excess deaths and 2022 approximately 66,000. The surge in excess mortality reportedly began around April 2021.

    Germany also saw a spike in stillbirths in the year 2021. In the first quarter, stillbirths increased by 9.4%. And in the fourth quarter of 2021, this number had reached 19.4%. Germany changed the definition of a “stillbirth” in 2019, so this data is a little less substantive for a comparison.

    The report falls short of specifying what may have caused the sudden but sustained surges in mortality during the “vaccine era” associated with the WuFlu .... but you connect the dots!

    See:
    https://www.cureus.com/articles/149410-estimation-of-excess-mortality-in-germany-during-2020-2022#!/
     
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    And it's "Peer reviewed"! It's science!

    Right Servus?
     
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    Well I have to admit I understood your joke or word play. Quite funny.

    Funfact about these viruses: children arent allowed to go to kindergarden, while they have effloreszenses. If those effloreszenzes are gone they are allowed again. But stay infective for 4 more weeks.

    The infection way of many viruses is just bad ass.
     
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    Well of course it is more science, than just writing brainless stuff!
     
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    I am glad to see there are no hard feelings! Thanks. (and I have none.)
     
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    Green Monkey DNA Found in Chinese Coronavirus mRNA Shots
    The “safe and effective” Chinese Coronavirus shots are turning out to be more of a time bomb than we ever imagined. This new discovery of the presence of green monkey DNA, including tumor-linked viral promoters in the jabs, has one microbiologist and immunologist calling for an immediate halt in the use of mRNA 'vaccines.'

    • Microbiologist Kevin McKernan — a former researcher and team leader for the MIT Human Genome project — has discovered massive DNA contamination in the mRNA Chinese Coronavirus shots, including simian virus 40 (SV40) promoters;
    • SV40 has been linked to cancer in humans, including mesotheliomas, lymphomas and cancers of the brain and bone. In 2002, the Lancet published evidence linking polio vaccines contaminated with SV40 to Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. According to the authors, the vaccine may be responsible for up to 50% of the 55,000 Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma cases diagnosed each year;
    • The level of contamination varies depending on the platform used to measure it, but no matter which method is used, the level of DNA contamination is significantly higher than the regulatory limits in both Europe and the U.S. The highest level of DNA contamination found was 30%;
    • The finding of DNA means the mRNA Chinese Coronavirus shots may have the ability to alter the human genome; and
    • Even if genetic modification does not occur, the fact that you’re getting foreign DNA into your cells poses a risk in and of itself. Partial expression could occur, or it might interfere with other transcription translations that are already in the cell. Cytoplasmic transfection can also allow for genetic manipulation, as the nucleus disassembles and exchanges cellular components with the cytosol during cell division.
     
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    THIS IS BEYOND BELIEF - BUT TRUE

    The Folks You Trust The Most When It Comes To Public Health -The WHO - Have Just Elected Communist North Korea To Its Executive Board

    *** WTF ***

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    Communist North Korea, a regime notorious for starving its own people while investing heavily in nuclear weapons, has been elected to the Executive Board of the World Health Organization (WHO).

    North Korea’s regime, led by Kim Jong Un, aka, Fat Gerbil Boy, has long been accused of gross human rights abuses and negligence toward the basic needs of its own citizens.

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    Apparently the WHO must have loved that the Norks’ most effective cure for Chinese Coronavirus was to tie the infected person to a AAA gun and fire it.

    No wonder The Bee Gees, “Staying Alive” has topped the charts in North Korea for the last 15 years in a row!



     
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    Truely unbelievable!
    And everything to do with this whole mess is which makes it all believable.

    Or put another way, if this was a movie it would flop as it’s so unbelievable.

    Yet it proves the old adage that fact is stranger than fiction!
     
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    FAT GERBIL BOY, aka LITTLE ROCKET MAN, IS SO HAPPY WITH THE WHO APPOINTMENT

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    Rubbing his fat little fingers with glee ... as he eagerly waits the next Scamdemic and his new found power and influence through the WHO.

    Meanwhile, at the WHO’s 76th. Assembly ...what else happened? Oh, not much ...

    - Despite being a recognized leader in public health, Taiwan’s applications to join the U.N., the WHO and the World Health Assembly (WHA) were denied;
    - Israel, a biotech innovator, was singled out for censure by the WHO as a violator off health rights; and
    - Of course, the Norks were elevated to a big-time WHO leadership role.

    See:
    https://twitter.com/HillelNeuer/status/1663974259566297089



     
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    Veteran Hollywood Journalist Claims Actor Jamie Foxx Allegedly Paralyzed and Blinded Due to ‘Blood Clot in His Brain’ Following Chinese Coronavirus Shot
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    Hollywood actor Jamie Foxx has been at the center of recent speculation regarding his health after reports emerged claiming he suffered from paralysis and blindness due to blood clots allegedly caused by the experimental Chinese Coronavirus vaccine.

    Foxx was hospitalized for a serious condition back in April during a shooting with Cameron Diaz.

    Since his hospitalization, his family members have not released any details on what caused his medical emergency.

    However, according to veteran Hollywood journalist A.J. Benza, who obtained details from a source close to Foxx, the actor is allegedly suffering from partial paralysis, blindness, and a range of other complications after receiving the Chinese Coronavirus vaccine.

    Jamie had a blood clot in his brain after he got the shot. He did not want the shot, but the movie he was on, he was pressured to get it,” said Benza during an interview with Dr. Drew.

    Watch:




     
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