Keeping him limp

btch, if you don't mind me asking how does your Wife know about these things? is She in the medical profession?

 

Nope. I'm simply a sissy and she's slowly changing me and making me more and more compliant. It started with panties, then pantyhose, then clothing. Now she's got me taking hormones to suppress my libido and to slowly change me. She's familiar with how things work for transsexuals in transition. But she really doesn't want to turn me into a woman. She's just using small doses to change my behavior mostly. She has me training hard to ensure I stay hard and lean.

 

That will become much more difficult as your testosterone levels crash. I also would caution you that there is more to this then impotence and asexuality. Mental clarity, symptoms that look like mental depression, mood swings (anger), inability to take care of daily tasks, muscle and bone loss. If your going to transition (Use Estrogen) you won't have these issues but you WILL rewire your brain to operate in female mode. And either way you go beware that after about 6 months your making (some) physical changes that can not be easily undone such as Testicular atrophy, breast, hip, butt growth. You won't loose hair or have your voice change but you really (Honest) should be doing this under a doctors care to insure your not doing things like liver damage etc.

I also think that what may well be a hot "kink" to you now will seem less and less interesting as you let yourself be castrated (or if you go with Estrogen Feminized) Its truly going to rewire things for you.

 

Hips don't grow. At least not like you're suggesting. That's like suggesting that hands, knees and elbows shrink. No amount of hormones are going to affect that much of a change past puberty.

Will breast tissue form? Absolutely. That's pretty much it. The average pre-op TS takes 6 to 8mg of estradiol a day. And on top of that, there's usually a lot more testosterone suppression going on.

And just so we're clear, there is no kink associated with this. There's no turn on, etc. That was the point of this. She wants me under control. She wants to be with her boyfriend and not have me jealous or anything like that. Shutting down the libido is the way to do that. The estrogen isn't for feminization. That's a side effect. It's to ensure the maintenance of good bone density. You've gotta have an adequate production of either testosterone or of estrogen to keep certain things healthy.

Anyway, there's mood alteration that goes on. But there's no re-wiring of the brain into female mode. You talk to any MtF transsexual and they'll tell you they were female before the HRT.

 

I have two friends who are m2f ts folks. Estrogen DOES change your mental wiring. Emotions, mood, etc. They may well have identified as female all their life but changing your "mix" of hormones to female is quite a bit different. Colors, smell, things very subtle change. The brain is one of the largest receptors to hormones and when you flip the mix to female you will get some serious changes.

As to hips and butt these things do change as well. One of them I knew pre and post estrogen. They told me that they were told by their doctor to expect similar breast sizes to near what their mothers had. Hips and butt change as well. In all these cases the changes are more pronounced the younger you do this but they really do change. I've seen it and the people I know report it.

So if I understand it correctly now you don't want to use female doses of estrogen you just want to take castration drugs and a small amount of estrogen? Is that Correct? The idea is to make your wifes cuckolding of you easier for her because you both think this will remove any jealousy on your part?

Please read up on the effects of castration either chemical castration (or surgical) does before you decide. Cutting off your Testosterone (or your balls) is not just a switch that turns on your sex drive. Oh for SURE that goes off but it comes with a large number of other effects that I doubt will please you or your mistress. Mood swings (anger), depression like symptoms. Anxiety, loss of energy, inability to think clearly or make decisions. If you get into the female mix (With enough Estroge) you will still be "sexual" my TS friends report being both having pretty strong /normal sex drives. *And of course the mental, energy things are not a problem. Just "different"

I hope you will speak to a doctor and have him/her monitor you if you decide to do this. I don't know where your getting your drugs but? Its a real crap shoot to buy things like this over the internet and if nothing else be safe and don't damage your liver (For example)

Really do be careful of what you wish for!

 

Here is a link from a Transition site that talks about measuring changes in butt and hips

http://www.transgendercare.com/medical/resources/tmf_program/tmf_program_7.asp

The main page maybe of more help then I was in talking about this. Good luck whatever you decide to do!

- Jimi

 

I might suggest a healthy dose of middle age. Prostate milking also removes verve from the loins.

 

I remember reading about this [Bromide] years ago. Haven't checked if this has already been posted!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromide

"It was rumoured in particular by British troops during World War II that bromide was regularly added to their tea to reduce incidence of erections for males (see anaphrodisiac). Historically this actually had been bromide's initial pharmacological use a century before (see the history in potassium bromide). However, such an action is common to all effective sedatives[citation needed] and not known to be especially particular to bromide. In addition, stories of anaphrodesiacs being used for troops also were told about a number of other chemical compounds, such as nitrates, and there has not been good evidence produced for any of them".

Also see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaphrodisiac

Warning:
"Less natural options are prescription synthetic compounds such as estrogens and anti-androgen drugs. These drugs have several side effects including fatigue, headaches, mood disturbances, loss of body hair, and breast development. Because of the health risks of prescription medication, these products are undesirable for a large segment of the population and are most frequently prescribed by professionals for male habitual sex offenders. These products are considered too risky for the general public and are typically not recommended for casual use".

Same page List of putative anaphrodisiacs - includes ironically 'Chasteberry' Vitex agnus-castus, also called Vitex, Chaste Tree, Chasteberry, or Monk's Pepper.
For UK http://www.naturesbest.co.uk/produc...tm_term=chasteberry&utm_campaign=Chaste+Berry

For US http://www.iherb.com/Natural-Factors-Vitex-Chasteberry-Extract-80-mg-90-Capsules/2686?at=0
Hope this helps.



MistressQS

"I do not mind using a device to train him to stay soft but would eventually like this condition to remain without a device. Makes my heart tingle to think of parading around in front of him and his not being able to get it up.

All thoughts or suggestions welcomed!"

 

Her Dividend! I just noticed your avatar. What a great picture. Are you going to post any pictures in your album?

 

Conditioning

i would think with some electro torment, electric cock and ball rings you could punish most erections into submission.

 

Eunuch tendancies

Perhaps you have done the research required to become a Eunuch. I doubt many here have as this community is about forced suppression and frustration, not removal entirely. There is a great message board :
http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14

This thread appears to address much of the need to know information. Sort of an overview.
http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=10168

I think the biggest trend I've observed in this discussion is the care for which everyone here at CM desires for you. If this is what your Mistress wants and you are willing, and both of you understand exactly what you are getting yourself into, and together make an informed decision, then the decision should be respected. I can bet most of the sissy's here can't imagine the extreme step you wish to undertake. And simply want you to pause before you proceed.

However, if it is all that you think about and your submission to your Mistress has grown to such an extent that you would castrate yourself for Her, then who am I to judge. Sounds like She is an amazing Woman to have brought you into such an extraordinary level of submission.

Good lucky to you and your Mistess

 

You make the point better then I. As you said "understand exactly what you are getting into, and together make an informed decision."

I think that sums up what I probably should have said. Anyway, I hope the stuff I posted was of value. The Eunuch Archive has some information on ways to do chemical castration and if you use their search function you can see the results from a variety of people who have taken this path. Be aware however that like so many things on the internet some of this may well be posts from "posers" and in particular the "enunch porn" should not be taken as fact.

 

Perhaps a custom made chastity device, one that would not allow him to grow at all. Thus completely preventing an erection.

I've thought about shortening my cb-6000 every other month until I can't grow at all. But I'm scared my KH might not let me out ever!

 

Unless you sustain injury to your spine, affecting the nervous system, unless your are a heavy smoker, unless you have a health condition such as angina or diabetes, or unless you are on Depo Provera, your erectile tissue will attempt to fill with blood and thus become hard. This will happen in your sleep, or when you get aroused. All that will happen is you will probably be crippled in pain, if the erectile tissue has no space whatsoever to expand.

 

Several people have mentioned anti-androgens and I'd like to add my voice to that.

If your goal is to seriously stop erections, Androcur will do the trick. I get mine from inhousepharmacy since it's not available in the US.

I take 50mg/day (was on 200mg/day Spironolactone before that with less results).

I actually had a porn shoot that was almost an abysmal failure (little magic blue pill to the rescue!) because of it. Even with the Spiro I could still get and maintain one if I really tried. With the Androcur after a month or two it was impossible to get one for more than a few minutes and that was with constant stimulation (though not physically centered there as most of my arousal is from other areas and in my mind) and ejaculation was impossible after just a few weeks.

I probably went 6 months without an erection at all and then had to stop taking my meds due to financial reasons. It was several months before I was able to produce any ejaculate or even get an erection that went beyond just a slight twitch or lasted for more than about 30 seconds.

Thankfully I'm starting it up again, day 3 and erections are already getting tougher to maintain. That's not a bad thing for me though. Nothing worse than being at work and looking at a server or bending down to read a label on a server and having things start to stir.

As with previous posts about this though, messing with the body's chemistry can be a very dangerous thing, and can have unpredictable side effects aside from the things that are expected. Sometimes these can be good, sometimes not so good.

Personally I would advise Androcur over Spironolactone as it won't act as a Diuretic, and won't cause a lot of potassium retention, which itself can be fatal.

Again though, playing with body chemistry is playing with matches in a room full of open gasoline cans, propane tanks, rocket fuel and napalm with nails and screws strewn all over the floor. Do the research, maybe try and find a kink friendly doctor, or find a legitimate reason for them to monitor the bloodwork (which could be as simple as 'please do these tests and advise because i'm taking this and want to know that my liver and anything else affected is still healthy).

Someone also mentioned Depo-Provera which is generally administered to sex offenders in injections once a month or once every 3 months. You can also get that at inhousepharmacy.

As for sex drive, that won't necessarily go away, although it may change. Everyone is different. No 2 people will have the same experience. My own sex drive actually increased significantly. But then I'm trans so... *shrug*

Insert another pyromaniac reference here.

 

what about salt peter... it's been claimed the US goverment uses this for basic training to keep young GI's from playing with themselves. It worked for me, I never tossed off in Basic...not even sure what it is, but they make you drink two glasses of water at every meal and they are very animate about it, ( or at least they used to be )

AND I SQUASHED MY OWN MYTH ---


Potassium nitrate can be found in some toothpastes for sensitive teeth.[sup][10][/sup] Recently, the use of potassium nitrate in toothpastes for treating sensitive teeth (dentine hypersensitivity) has increased dramatically, even though studies to this effect have been inconclusive.[sup][11][/sup].[sup][12][/sup]


Potassium nitrate successfully combats high blood pressure and was once used as a hypotensive. Other nitrates and nitrites such as glyceryl trinitrate (nitroglycerin), amyl nitrite and isosorbide derivatives are still used to relieve angina.

Potassium nitrate was once thought to induce impotence, and is still falsely rumored to be in institutional food (such as military fare) as an anaphrodisiac; however, there is no scientific evidence for such properties.[1

 

Hi sorry took the false button

I are also on no erections. I was to the med with my keyholder. The doc gave me a receipt of oestrogen, 100 mg per day. After 2 weeks I was no more able to get an erection. I are now in my 8 month and am happy that the penis will only for peeing. My keyholder wants me to watch if she is fucked by his lover, every weekend and I have to clean her pussy. There are also no more wet dreams ore semen leaks when peeing. Try this mayba you are as succesful as mine
dipper

 

Perpetual limpness can be achieved through the application of a not overly tight Lori Tube--#3,4,5,7,and 16 will work. The object would be to limit erections over time until the penis loses it's ability to erect because as the cavernum corpus loses capacity due to the constiction of the tube.

The chosen tube does not have to be overly tight--just tight enough so that you feel pressure (but not pain) as an erection occurs. The tube has to be kept on the penis 24/7 for 6 weeks for the effect to begin. At first the penis loses curvature and goes straight. Following that, it begins to go limp. Kept on for months, the penis will no longer grow erect.

The only complication (other than the intended) is that the lower section of the penis, unconstricted by the tube, will tend to grow wider. Thus the best choice would be a tube with an accompanying scrotal ring that keeps the penis positioned downward and discourages lower "growth" as well.

 

Hi
i would think prostrate massage woudl sort a lot of the problem out and also drinking you Mistresses Necter would provide at least some female hormonesfor fee and her pleasure .

 

I would love it if Mistress did that... But I am sure it would defeat the purpose. :blink:

nemo

 

I have fantasized about being made "impotent" or "limp" by my Mistress. Wish I had a Mistress

The idea that She could tease and stimulate me and that I would be trained to stay soft is so deliciously humiliating! Especially if She then demonstrated my situation in front of other people?

 

Hey folks! By this definition, I can reasure everyone that "middle age" doesn't start 'till at least after your early '60s!!

 

Frankly I don't see the point. Surely chastity play is all about the exchange of power between two consenting individuals. If you remove the ability to get erect when free from the one giving up the power, what power does the one assuming the power then have? Imagine the conversation:-

"Right - I'm going to lock your willy up so you can't play with it and it'll be mine, all mine to control!!

"Errrr. - You do realise it's no longer any fun for me playing with it because I can't get an erection any more."

"That's no good. What control does that give me if all I'm doing is stopping you doing something you can't do anyway!?"

"You should have thought about that before making me take those stupid pills."

"Well sod you. - I'm off to find someone worth controlling."