Non PA-ers: How do you deal with possibility to pullout?

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    I'm wearing the Vice Mini from lockedinlust.com 24x7. The anti pullout works as advertised once you get the various sizing options correct. But it comes with multiple rings, spacers and anti pullout rings.

    I used a vibe once to cheat and now my wife keeps it hidden from me.

    I use q-tips, anti bacterial soap and a hand held sprayer in the shower to limit the frequency of hygiene openings. It's been 12 days since me last opening and week remove it so I can shave today.
     
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    I can’t really relate to your problem. I can’t escape from or masticate to orgasm (even with a vibrator) in my device. Removing the device without the key requires destroying the PA pin which would likely hurt like hell.

    My wife has no interest in my willful cooperation, In her words, “Fuck your cooperation, I want control”.

    So based on the parameters you’ve laid out, hmmm let me think. Yeah, I’ve got nothing.
     
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    I have had a PA for 20 years so I can’t appreciate your predicament, but my KH finds all kinds of ways to keep my life & hers interesting - with her in total control. It has been an amazing experience!
     
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    I am having... probaly a dozen of ball trap cages. I can pull out of them all. I do exactly that every morning for cleaning. However I cant take a cage off. My wife doesn't know I can easily pull out.

    I never cheated my wife, I have never cum, when a cage was locked.
    So, being able to pull out of any my ball-trap cages, I see it as an advantage for hygiene reason. And it's not a drawback for me since I don't cheat. It's just a good opportunity to wear a cage longer without removal for cleaning.
     
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    So your wife believes you are securely locked meanwhile you’re secure in the knowledge that you are the one in control and you could jerk-off anytime you wish. On the other hand you could get a PA device properly vented so it NEVER has to come off for cleaning and put her in charge.
     
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    I am not secure in the knowledge, I am in control. I simly don't cheat, never ever.
    Any ball trap device I have can be destroyed and taken off in minutes, 30 minutes as longest.
    So, if you change your mind, you still can free yourself easily, not depending on pull out.
     
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    It is all about trust.

    Either you talked her into or vice-versa. Regardless, you agreed. What is your word worth?
     
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    I feel that cuming without her permission would be a form of cheating. The chastity device is a reminder that she owns the bits down there.

    I wear a tight ring, needing to both push and pull my penis through the ring to get it on. While I should with a bit of effort be able to pull out I don't think I could get back in without it being unlocked and disassembled... which would lead to some awkward explaining.
     
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    So you have a picture of your piercing ?
     
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    As others have stated. This is what you want more than anything, so yes willpower, or self discipline is required. Like some, I did get a PA and not only like the look, but not even having the option of pulling out extinguishes the thought. And there's not really much to it. Unlike the nipples, It's actually one of the quickest healing piercings, but I do understand anyone's trepidation.

    https://www.healthline.com/health/prince-albert-piercing
     
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    Over the years, I've had and tried quite a few different chastity devices. May I ask which one you finally settled on? Thanks in advance.
     
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    It doesn't have a name sweetie . I played around with two of the cages I had and made one. It's the one in my pictures titled 2 into 1 cage.
     
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    Oh...my apologies. I should've payed you a visit. Thank you for following up with me.
     
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    You don't understand anyone's concern? You don't understand that they might fear the pain, I find that hard to believe.
     
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    No problem dear.
     
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    But could you also do it without wearing the cage then?
     
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    So the Vice Mini actually works for you? I read many stories it doesn't work when I was almost about to buy it... Hope you could share!
     
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    Yes, it does work for me!

    I tried other devices for quite awhile so I had gotten thru the break-in period when I ordered the The Vice Mini. I bought it because I wanted something that would be secure and not easily defeated. The only ways for me to get out of it would be a bolt cutter or a scarred, painful and bloody penis head. I can handle pain but really, really don't want to experience it there.

    The advantages of the Vice are that it comes with multiple sized rings, spacers, pins, and anti-pullouts so you can tinker to get the right fit. For example, after wearing it 24x7 for several months, one of my balls slipped out and I realized I could / should switch to the next size smaller ring (I'm already in the smallest spacer). Also, I'm between the small and medium anti-pullout and am switching between the two to see if I will adjust to the smaller one (it pinches underneath the glans and can cause irritation). I like the tighter fit of the small anti-pullout to hold the head in place for peeing.

    Some might not like the Vice because it's a little more bulky than other devices. It would be clearly noticable in spandex shorts at the gym. But that's not a big issue for me and I don't really care if someone notices an odd shaped bulge in my shorts, but that's not happened. My wife is very fashioned conscious and looks me over pretty well and has never mentioned it being noticeable.

    My only complaint was with the cheap lock that came with it. I wear it 24x7 which means in the shower, pool, at the beach, etc. The lock rusted almost immediately. I bought a set of master locks (4 locks with one set of keys) that are very slightly larger and are much more secure. I had a slight problem with the hole alignment on the spacer pin and the cage so I had to take a drill and enlargen the hole in the spacer pin just a tad for the new locking pin to go thru with the cage on.

    All in all, I'm very happy with it and will buy another one if and when it needs to be replaced.
     
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    Previously I had bee wearing a steel cage called The Guardian, from Oxyshop. I could pull out but I wouldn’t do that to cum.
    I did get carried away one time and used a vibrator and kegal balls and came in the cage.
    It felt dirty with cum all over me and no way to get a good cleaning afterward.
    That was unpleasant but not nearly as unpleasant as the riding crop I had to deal with when my Queen found out.
    She always says, “Good boys don’t cum, bad boys feel the sting of my crop”. I can confirm and it is not worth it.
    She has since locked up all of my anal toys as well.
    Recently, I got a Queens Keep from Mature Metal.
    The ring is much tighter on me and with the punishment pin I can tell that it might be a time consuming and painful process to pull out.
    I haven’t tried too hard, but I don’t want to.
    If we both keep having as much fun as we are, I think a PA is in my future and I can’t wait
     
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    My partner is wearing a HolyTrainer (V3, I think), and not pierced. He can pull out, but not get back in, and he doesn't wear the cage all the time anyway (we're working on finding him a better fit). For us, trust and honesty is essential to our chastity journey. I know that he will never lie to me, and that he will tell me if he messes up (like masturbating) without me having to ask him. Without his honesty, I don't think chastity would have worked for me at all.

    It has helped his motivation to know that there are consequences for his actions. For example, I have made it clear that if he ever pulls out of his device and masturbates, I will ask him to book an appointment with a piercer. Not because its something I'm especially into, but because it will be a violation of my trust and show that he can't be trusted not to pull out on his own. He also appreciates (real) threats of having to go long periods without release if he steps out of line (like masturbating, pulling out of his device, fondling himself etc.), especially in periods where his motivation (and thus willpower) is on the low side. It will also boost his motivation to be reminded that this is something I really want from him, and to be reminded of why I want his sexuality to be under my control.

    I think you and your partner are the people best suited to figure out what will work best in your situation. What does your partner think of your ability to pull out? Is there some way they could punish you if you ever do it, that would make you think it over thrice? Are there any "risky situations" where it is more likely for you to pull out, that you could avoid/handle better (like watching porn, reading posts here at the forum, not being able to fall asleep, when you're home alone...)? Would it help if you promise specifically every day that you won't pull out? There are countless other things that might help, but you need to figure out what works for the both of you. And it is VERY IMPORTANT that it also works for your partner, not only for you! If it doesn't work for them to ask you every day (or multiple times a day) if you've behaved, then that doesn't work for you either.

    Best of luck on your journey, you'll both grow along the way!
     
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    No way. When I am not locked, I don't have sexual drive to play in chastity. It's really amazing, but a cage makes me submissive and obedient. I can pull out of my cage, but I can't remove it. A cage is not really comfortable to wear, so I feel dependant on my wife's secision to unlock me one day, this apart from my need to cum.
     
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    We are around each other a lot and she knows my moods well. I have "cheated" a few times over the years that we've been doing this and it's pretty obvious to her almost every time.

    I'm getting a PA soon, was supposed to already have done it but life gets in the way. In any case, the PA should happen soon.
     
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    I'm not a fan of uploading photos of my junk to the internet, sorry.
     
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    Thanks, that was really helpful! Might consider one after all... :)
     
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