In a relationship and using self locking to help convince your partner? Here's why not:

@maid_carrie @Pretty Monnica

Don't you think he makes a handsome keyholder?!

 

@Pretty Monnica @maid_carrie
Yesterday: The wife called a liar and said I was making things up.
Today: The husband is right back in my inbox this morning.

Soooo.....

 

I'm completely confused how such good advice got side-tracked by fact checking and more.

Seems Pretty Monnica is simply suggesting more would be gained by encouraging communications over imposing ones desires on an unsuspecting SO.

But, hey, the extra links did provide more input and some extra reading - yea? Shows commitment and web skills, so that's a plus. What it failed to capture is the intent of the original post, which is/was fine.

On a side note - Ducks?! HAHAHA!!! Snarky to the max! Or was it simply spell checked, as they say it's never Ducks.

 

The answer is quite simple, I think. The very first post also contains sexist falsehoods and when the OP got called out on those, she's decided to pretend she was being attacked, instead of admitting she made some mistakes. I haven't seen *anyone* here able to show she wasn't being sexist and mistaken, but I guess truth is less important than ideological compliance to some people.

And here we are. Maybe it would be better to not open that debate again?

 

I don't see the original post as sexist. It's an opinion, with some good points made. Maybe it doesn't fit everyone. Maybe not all is 100% accurate. Why pick on one point and blow that up. I think the main question is something worth debating. Everyone take a deep breath. Realise that there was a misunderstanding, stop putting fingers in your ears and listen to each other.

Separating posts. There is always room for another debate. The truth about the history of chastity. Rather than hijack a post and polarise the debate, start a new thread.

Above all people. Realise we are all different and that's good. Show respect, try to see the other point of view.

 

@Jah Rubbings @sandman9355 @L=Locked

You're all right. If people keep posting here, yesterday's combatants are going to find something to latch onto when they wakeup and then it's off we go again and back comes you know who tomorrow night.

 

@Pretty Monnica - I didn't attack you, I attacked the inaccurate things you claimed in your writing.

Being offended was a choice.

You could have demonstrated some evidence to prove me wrong but instead you attacked me personally and went into a tailspin over it.

Thank goodness I didn't enquire who the female, who I assume is human and so a "woman", was that wrote your opening post.

 

Now you're just picking a fight. Don't do that.

 

Well, yes, I suppose so. My last para was a bit jabby I will confess.

 

Well, he's not the one trying to restart the fight, is he? He's defending himself from another attack.

 

Calm the fuck down people

 

It is entirely possible that two things are both simultaneously true:

• You, and others who are trans, are regularly talked down to, demeaned, and otherwise mistreated; and
  
• You can mistakenly perceive offense in words which were not intended to be offensive.

I am neither judge nor jury. And honestly, I am not morally sufficient to be either judge or jury.

I post only as a friend. Your feelings are valid; no one of us has the right to question or assume to assert your feelings. You, and your feelings, deserve our validation.

If I could, I would let you re-read this thread through my eyes. My words are intended to share a different perspective that is not readily available from where you are at the moment.

And despite my near complete lack of understanding of trans people, it is (among other things) your active involvement here that has helped me learn to think twice (and thrice) about my own choices in how I treat people who are trans. And I know that I have a conscious choice to either help, or to hurt (e.g. talk down to, demean, and otherwise mistreat).

Please, consider how your words and responses can be used positively. They have had a positive effect, in my life. That is a gift that you have; please use it wisely.

 

Don't want to speak for others but I'm quite calm about this myself.

However, I see no good reason to stay silent. Sure, staying silent might help the peace and quiet here. But I don't feel like staying silent when one user is trying to attack others here with false accusations.

Sure, there is a level of amusing irony to responding to hints one is one of the toxic men who have done bad things to a trans woman here, when one did nothing of the sorts and is typing this wearing leggings adorned by flowers and butterflies, but you might find such amusement of limited value once you might realize trans people being sexist irrational bullies helps mainstream folks see *you* as one of those people.

 

Summary of this thread: open communication is great. Accept that you and your partner will not always be on the same page.

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This trans woman is asking you to clear out for awhile. There's lots of other places to do things.

 

Care to tell me why? And what's your gender got to do with where the truth is here?

 

It was just a segway. Pretty pretty please?

 

Okay, and no need to sound so... cutesy. Politeness would have been be enough
But will you try to keep *everyone* civilized here please?

 

This is still not resolved. You have both stated the other is wrong. (Oversimplification I know) Perhaps further research and providing sources for the information is the right way of going about it. Stop the argument and present evidence. I'm off to look.