Importance of duration

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    Just wondering why so many are obsessed by the duration of lockups, is it realy that important? Sometimes it looks like chastity is an olympic 'discipline'. So what are your toughts?
     
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    For me it is not the uninterrupted time the target, but the fact not being without cage. I need regular cleaning and shaving on a weekly basis.
     
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    I think for some, it is about duration: setting challenges and keeping them.

    For others, it's about consistency of identity, and the question is really a technical one akin to "how long can I stay in this warm bath?"

    And then there's something in between that's masochistic. I'm fascinated by possible duration because I get a delicious thrill at the thought that Xena might keep me sealed for a very long time, and that's akin to "How many strokes of the whip is it safe for my mistress to give me?"
     
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    i think its diferent for every one and theres no reason why it needs to be the same . everyone gets somthing difeant from it for me ive come to the conclusion im much happyer whith no orgasnts ive got much moor enegy and im much moor horny . but thats only what suites me everyone diferant .i may never have another orgasm
    who knows
     
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    it's a bit of a male characteristic to want to do more, longer, harder etc.

    Whatever works for you and your individual dynamic.
     
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    sounds a lot like feeding male egos..... can not imagine why women are not lining up to hold your key.
     
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    We don't do and never have done "durations". Once we discovered chastity and "got into it" as it were it was all quite simple really! Mrs Chaste just keeps me locked up all the time!
     
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    One Keyholderette is enough for me. We have our regime settled since a long time
     
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    For me, duration is only important in that it helps demonstrate my submissive nature. Can go longer but prefer it just be out of my control.
     
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    My mistress just wants what she wants and she likes my tongue better than her penis
     
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    yes that rigt and when i use to make mess i feeled dreadful after and tooked ages to come back normal again. i glad i dont now.
     
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    I recognise that!
     
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    I agree! I’m released every 5 to 7 days for cleaning to.
     
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    I agree. If it is real “permanent” chastity it should never come off. So in that case it is actually all about how much you can touch your penis. Or ever even use that word jerk off because you will never have the time you want to do it in. Then there is the milking the Vibrator the pegging or what ever your Key Holder decides. Your penis is never going to be your own again. So the one that wins or losses is when you die anyway. So just pack it in and let life go on. My key holder wife would not care if it ever came out of its cage. She likes oral stimulation and fingering is just fine. It is all about not allowing me to jerk off is most of her fun. When she found out I was jerking off by myself. It was all over. On it went! So I used to be able to cum or try on a 4 week pattern. By that I mean the first week I had 5 minutes to jerk off. The second week only 4 min. the third week only 3 and only 2 min. On the 4th week. Then starts over again. But I lost that privilege when I was allowed to keep the cage of for a while. My wife was off watching tv so I just started to play and I could not help myself I jerked off. Well needless to say she found out. If you do this guys make sure you don’t throw the towel in the laundry bin. So now I only get 5 min. Once a month to try and jerk off and I spent 12 hours strapped to our bed (where I jerked off by the way) blind folded with my head wrapped in a lot of cling wrap. With my cpap machine giving me air. Don’t worry all you safety people the inlet has holes so you can still breath if the machine stopped. My wife would come in every hour to Either tease me with a Vibrator or other ways. Or to whip and use nipple clamps etc.... oh I was released and walked to the bathroom, but she did not fall for it when I said I had to go every hour. ok you might say “ wow how cool is that “ but trust me 12 hours is a long time. So don’t wish on some silly time frame. Rather wish you don’t have a silly time frame.
     
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    It's not up to me. I don't asked to be locked up for a certain period. I have asked for release but that is usually met with a laugh.

    I do get to be uncaged but it's totally up to my key holders. We have no set schedule.
     
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    Durtation can be interesting,and perhaps important for some, depending on goals.

    For example; if the aim is to break the porn, masturbation, orgasm (PMO) habit then 90 days seems to be about right (see NoFap). Reasearch suggests that to form a new habit or to break one it takes an average of 67 days, so 90 days seems like a good bet.

    In certain Taoist approaches culivating male sexual energy requires complete denial and absteining from orgasm before moving on to edging and then the ultimate goal of orgasm without ejaculation (male sexual continence, "contact without leakage"). Also, in the same system spilling your seed needlessly depletes you and will leave you as a dry, empty, stiff husk of your former self. See Mantak Chia for reference. Yes you can orgasm without ejaculating, yes you can have full body orgasms with neither an erection or ejaculation, I know because I have experienced it a few times.

    Reading on the internet suggests initial periods of 3-12 months of total denial potentially leads to some interesting psychological changes so for some that might also be the goal. Better intimacy, more empathy, focus on more important things, being a better partner etc. I don't know about these as I am only a month in, but time will tell I suppose.

    After a month of zero release, no unlocks or orgasms, of any kind I now find porn to be completely empty and devoid of titilation, and I can see how useless and an utter waste of time it has been. Chastity captions, on the other hand, are driving me insane, and they will be the next thing to go I imagine.

    My GF says she wants to push and push but duration is only part of the potential fun available.
     
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    I have no interest in fixed duration locking, knowing when I will be released. But at the same time, keeping track of how long I have been locked becomes more like a "hobby"...
     
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    This interesting question prompted me to do some research.
    The Taoists seem to have interesting views on healthy ejaculation frequency, graded by age:
    20+: every 4 days
    30+: every 8 days
    40+: every 10 days
    50+: every 20 days
    60+: no more, unless he is exceptionally strong and healthy, then once a month!

    I think I'll send the page to my wife if the subject comes up again.:+1:
     
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    I'm not sure that the duration is important, but for me its the feeling of lust and hornyness to my wife that I want to retain.

    I have been in and out of chastity for the last year or so, probably about 1/2 that time "locked" with releases varying from 1-3 weeks apart (locked but still out for cleaning, shaving & sports, just no self gratification). and maybe a month or so of simply wearing the cage for a day but not chastity as such.

    I do have a competitive streak, especially against myself which comes from wanting to do more or better at something than last time, so do find it intriguing if I "beat my old record", but this is an internal victory of sorts, nothing that Mrs Sen cares about at all.
     
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    Lengthening the duration of my lockups do have a significant effect. Till recently my regular regime - locked every day 12-18 hours - had a moderate effect to my sexual excitement and less effects to mental perception. Once my regime has been changed to more 24/7 lock-up, my sensitivity in other forms (social, sensing my environment, affection) start to build up. Once the 24/7 lock-up period is further increased, after e.g. 2 weeks my submissiveness increase notably, whilst my sexual excitement stabilises. After e.g. 3 weeks staying 24/7, also my nocturnal erections become less, and my body and mind start to feel more "zen".

    Now, I am back in 24/7 after 2 days of non-wearing. Prior to that I was locked for 24 days 24/7 with only mild sexual attention and teasing from my Love in between. I am surprised how quickly I returned to “zen mode” after the 2 days of staying unlocked.

    Away from "duration of lockups" there is the issue about duration in between releases. In my perception both "durations" are something entirely different. Releases are not any more subject to my own judgement. Since 2 years my Love regulate them all. Unaware, my Love is following a conservative version of the Taoist regime. Saying that releases become unpleasant for me, might be a bit too early to conclude in my chastity and denial education. But for sure I will not mind if the periods in between will be longer and longer. Once we both experienced (and understood) the negative fall back after a release, my Love is increasing the duration in between releases. This becomes more pleasant for both of us, where at the same time the number of O's my Love enjoys are increased substantialy.

    So, yes, duration of lockups and in between releases is something to consider when speaking about the real effects of chastity. I am very curious what real long lockup and denial periods will do with my mind (first) and body (second). I do guess that finally mental perceptions becomes paramount over sexual excitement, once the duration increases. That makes the whole subject attractive for both of us. Both we may need the persistence of olympic players to achieve the ultimate result...
     
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    This piece of sage advice gave me a chuckle.

    I agree that guys, especially this group, like to view these things as a contest. And I might have viewed how often I did have sex BC also as bragging rights. Just part of the ego perhaps. But my wife is not in such a competition. She explains that, so far, longer duration IS better. It takes me a full 6 weeks to really come around. After that she starts really enjoying, and me accepting, it. She hasnt yet found a point where the effort or backlash wasnt well worth it = really long lockups. I wish I could talk her into more frequent releases but she keeps it interesting and fun without giving in. As a result it IS helpful to compare notes with other long-timers here and not just bragging (besides I'm a rookie compared to some here).
     
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    In our case I don't think it has much to do with setting duration records. I have to come on here and look at my footer on my msg's to know how long I have been orgasm free, my WIfe (KH) and I aren't tracking the length of time at all. We both agree however that I am a much better partner when I am orgasm free. My WIfe also sees no particular reason why I need to have an orgasm. As She often says 'Wants and needs are totally different things..'. Trading PIV sex or masturbation for the closeness/intimacy we now have is a no-brainer. We have FAR more sexual intimate moments now that we did when I had regular orgasms. My Wife has told me on numerous occasions that her orgasms/sexual energy has improved so much now that she never has to concern herself with giving me an orgasm during our sexual moments, and that is VERY evident to me as well.
     
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    I agree
     
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