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    That pretty much sums it up, really good post!
     
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    My Master and Goddess gets off on denying me. i am pussy free, locked in a tiny mature metal cage, i do as much of the housework as I can given my job, and i am Her bitch in countless ways. This site is and has been important to U/us. I find it to be as real as possible given the anonymity of the cyber world. That’s the truth from where i am kneeling.
     
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    interesting thread. just seems that our ladies have various standards -- they will decide what can and cannot be done
     
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    #204 Sussex UK Sissy Cuck, Oct 28, 2020
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    No. Its just that the debate is happening *here*. So any link pertaining to the discussion clearly belongs here too, not in private messaging.

    You've made claims, which I have no reason to disbelieve. I'm not out to catch you out for bullshit; I'm just genuinely interested in seeing for myself examples of what you've claimed. As I'm sure are others reading this thread, given that its a *public* discussion.

    And its not at all clear why you are so reticent to backing up your claims. You would consolidate your claims by linking to examples and help to positively direct the debate.
     
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    Honesty, fantasy, and reality.

    I'll start. My name isn't really "HusbandX." Shocking, I know. Very likely, few, if any other posters here post with their real name. Or information. I once admitted on a FLR forum that I hadn't provided my real information, for security reasons, as I don't do that online anywhere. Panic ensued. Condemnation occurred. All four horses of the apocalypse ran wild, and chickens spooned with cats. I was told to vanish in a hailstorm, good riddance, I could only hope to burn in hell, a fate too good for the likes of me.

    Irony being what it was, nobody else there provided their real information. Screen names. Details changed to protect the innocent. Everyone hiding behind something, as is a wise choice, online. For many reasons.

    I chose the name HusbandX, which I have used on several places, simply for the reason that I am male, and I am married, and I don't want anyone to confuse that; it's up front. I'm not flirting, I'm not looking, I'm not sneaking around. My wife isn't sold on the FLR concept. We dabble. She isn't big on chastity. I self lock, intermittently, as occasion permits. Life goes on. The reality is that if she punishes, it's probably her playing, or because I asked her to. She doesn't really understand why a man would put a device around his genitalia. She's concerned about hygiene with an enclosed device, and the implications that might have for her. Rightfully so. That's reality, not fantasy. But it's reality for us. Not necessarily for someone else.

    I'm gone much of the time, on the road, traveling internationally, in hotels much of the time. Alone. I do take a cage with me, and I do wear it, though not all the time, and certainly not while traveling through security. The reality is that the fantasy is mine, not hers, and she's willing to indulge, but does ask that if she's going to extend herself for me, that I'd see to it to focus on being a better listener, more attentive, a better husband. Things that in reality, she finds more rewarding for her, more romantic, and the makings of a better partner.

    Reality is that as a woman, and as a wife, and as a human being, she doesn't dream all day of a man with a larger penis, or having sex with the neighbor, or whipping me until I bleed, or even locking my genitalia and teasing me until I beg. She could take it or leave it, and would be happy to leave it. Occasionally she throws me a bone, indulges in my own wants or fantasies, but they're not hers, and the real reality is, if anyone wants to know, is that if I really want to place her in the forefront of heart and mind and place her needs and wants first, that I must listen and pay attention to what she really wants. It's not my fantasy that she wants. She just wants to be treated like a woman, like a human being, like a wife. So there it is, the reality of the fantasy.

    Want fantasy to be reality? Learn her fantasy and make that come true, and understand that it's probably not the same as yours.

    Not one single dick picture was harmed in the making of this post, either.
     
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    There’s a huge difference between a screen name, keeping personal information private and trying to get people to believe fictional stories are real.

    If I said I was at a party and I fucked my ex Mistress’ sissy while her husband and my current Mistress and others watched is it real or fiction?

    It’s fiction if it didn’t happen. It’s true if it did.

    And the problem is, that too much fiction makes it so telling about real events Don’t get believed. Worse, too much of it makes us look bad and newbies and those looking for honest answers and examples don’t know what to believe.

    I’ve said it before, there is nothing wrong with fiction, but those writing it should be honest about it being fiction and not try to pass it as reality. Since we have a section for it, that’s where it should be put.
     
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    Thank you for the essay. I really appreciate the advice. I don't want to fall in to this trap, and you explain it so well.
     
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    Everything in my blog isn't everything but it is true edited highlights and lowlights of my days.

    As for someone being more authentic if they have pictures...I don't agree. I have no interest in looking at another man's junk, let's face it they aren't pretty. I therefore have no intention of posting any pictures of myself. This is a private thing and is for many others.

    If my lady demanded I post n embarrassing picture of my cage, then that might be a different matter...But now I'm heading down the fantasy route, and if she ever gets there I would be happily surprised but it is unlikely. Anyway, chastity is about her needs and fantasies not mine.
     
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    So if she wanted you to ditch the cage and go 100% vanilla that would tickle your fancy?
     
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    I haven't given it much thought yet. Only three weeks in, so it is a distinct possibility I suppose. I would have to respect her decision. She has been so supportive so far. Though I would find it difficult not to revert to my old way without gentle persuasion, certainly at the moment when self denial is so new to me too.
     
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    Of what importance is belief following a "real event?" It's the internet. Who cares if it's believed? One would strain at the edges of credulity to take anything online at face value. It takes a deep dive into the gullible.

    Makes who look bad? Those who aren't "into" the concept aren't looking to be converted, and it's not like missionary work; who wants to convert those who have no interest? I'm not sure that there's anything that makes a sexual kink look good: it's sexuality. It's life. It's private. If one wishes to go public, then one takes one's lumps, knowing it's not everyone's cup of tea, right?

    I might be a terrifying terrorist. I might be a ventriloquist doll. I might be split between two dimensions, or a man or woman, or both. I tell you I'm a male, a husband, and not looking; who says that's the truth? Truth is perspective, just as history is written with bias. A man runs at me with a knife. I shoot him. Did I commit murder? Did I save a life? Depends who you ask. Truth is a function of perspective. Salt, remember is savory and makes life better, unless you're a snail. Perspective

    I don't disagree, in principle, but as said before, my name is not HusbandX. I call myself that here. In so doing, it's a lie. An accepted lie, but a lie none the less. Moreover, that's not my picture as an avatar. That man is far more handsome, reserved, and intelligent, and though I can't tell, I suspect he has better teeth. But it's not me. (his dick is probably bigger, too, but it's something I'd rather not see)

    I realize your question wasn't directed at me, but I'll take a stab, anyway.

    Her call.

    My wife would prefer no cage. She indulges my fantasy world as a favor, ala men-will-be-men. Or men-who-act-like-boys-will-be-boys. Something like that. She knows that it's not really about her or for her, even though the game is that it somehow benefits her. Makes me more attentive, I believe the party line goes. She knows full well that if I'm not attentive and supportive without a lock on my dick, then pandering to a kink doesn't fundamentally change me. Therefore, to lock, or allow the lock, is generosity on her part, but we're honest: it's for me. Not her. Because apparently, I never grew up.

    Should she determine that I shouldn't wear it, then it would be hypocritical to wear it anyway. After all, if the game is obedience, deference, abeyance, and respect for her wish, how can one do anything but honor it?
     
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    Well put
     
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    Because this isn’t a fiction site.

    Look at the history, and what the owner, previous owners, and community want.

    You’re in the minority.

    You have about 100 posts, so you’re pretty new here. Spend some time and see what others have said over many years.

    I’m not going to debate with you. But I can assure you based on your comments if you post stuff that seems like fiction the moderators will dealing with it.
     
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    How would you know?

    You wouldn't.

    Your being dismissive does not alter the fact.

    What others want doesn't change the simple truth that this is the internet. You understand this concept, yes?

    I am in a minority of what, exactly?
     
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    With this attitude you will never be open to the truth.
     
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    I suspect a troll. Don’t respond to this thread and let it die.
     
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    Dismissiveness it is, then. Very well.
     
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    I wouldnt say it is 'all' fake, but yes, some of the posts on this or any message board are definitely not real, poorly written, or written in such a way that they sure seem to sound more like fiction or a sugar coated version of the truth.

    There are real people here, like myself, who come here for info and ideas on how to continue to keep a real life FLR (I am in one that is 100 percent real) that uses inescapable chastity play to add into it.

    When you are in permanent chastity, my soon to be wife put me into a Rikers Metal device that is for the most part inescapable, and you read a post by a dude claiming he is in 24/7/365 chastity, and he uses the CB6000, for example, you know it's fake. I have one. I can slip it on and off in the shower in seconds, and I have a tendency to just sort of laugh it off.

    It's a good site for info, ideas, what not to do, and relationship advice, but does require a pretty high bs filter.
     
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    That is exactly right. Go by her speed.
     
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    I should have read this thread some time ago; I find it to be on point. The argument(s) here too seem on point. You have those who argue that filling this site with fantasy is just fine, and others who believe it homogenizes the site down to typical wank fodder. As the internet is filled with wank fodder, I fall into the camp that prefers this site to have more than fantasy to offer. That said, nobody REALLY knows what is fantasy (I have a feeling one of the more popular threads here is all BS...but I won't say which one) so moderating is unlikely to change things. In the end, the visitors who think/argue fluffing the site up with fantasy disguised as reality will win out...based on their own actions of filling the site with fantasy.

    A bit of hyperbole is fine, but pure BS on a site of people discussing their actual chastity or FLR lives really is just pollution. However, life has taught me that polluters never care about those downwind/river (and as we see, will even argue that the pollution is actually clean air/water). Life seems the same everywhere you go...
     
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    One why does it matter what is real or not it is up to the poster not your concern.
    I do agree it would be nice if it was totally the truth all the time but that will never happen. I love this site for the info and the stories. If you take this online world totally serious you are just as fictional as the stories and only fooling your self.

    What I have posted it the truth my KEYHOLDER is very serious on my chastity life.
     
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    Because in an environment like this (online) you don't have any other cues as to what is real or fiction, so you have to rely on what other people are writing. There are forums for posting fiction. People who come here looking for information should not have to wade through a lot of bullshit in order to get answers to questions.

    You would never expect to have to figure out if a newscaster or newspaper is telling the truth. Why would you think it's okay for that kind of behavior here?
     
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    Not defending the behavior but I think some people fiction is so real they can't tell the difference and live in a porn filled world
     
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    I'm not sure if I understood you, but you seem to be making my point. A lot of people read this forum for information. It's useless if nobody can tell the difference.
     
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