Knock-offs HT v4

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    Hello folks,

    Since the HT V4 knock-off is availible on Aliexpress I ordered It, well just wanted to share you some photos.

    I did ordered it from 2 different shops, and there is definitely some difference between the design/shapes, looks and finishing touches.


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    First difference as you can see the top row has a lighter color then the other 2 rows.

    So at first I did order one set (top row) from She is World With standard cage length

    After it did arrive the biggest ring (50mm) ( which I normally always wear with my HT v2) looked and feeled smaller then I was used to.

    When I went looking for the bigger 55 mm ring I did order it from Chaste Bird store where I also did order 2 small cage sets (middle and bottom row)

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    /\ Left top is the 50mm ring from the first shop, bottom right is the 55mm ring from second shop. which is therefore way too large for me.But the 50mm ring from top left gave me burning sack sensations (so a little bit too small) And as you can see the measurements don't matchs, right bottom ring is more then 5 mm larger then left top

    Too make it more clear look picture down here \/
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    Left ring is first shop, middle and right is second shop. The middle and left should both be 50mm but the middle is already larger then the left ring. Right ring is 55m from second shop.

    Difference between first shop left 50mm ring en 50 mm ring second shop right \/
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    \/ below 3 pics showing difference in length (and color) standard cage of first shop and small cage of second shop
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    I'm still now sure what cage suits me the best. standard length is Holy trainer V2 was the best, standard cage V4 is a little bit longer compared to the V2, but im hoping to find out soon.


    Any other thing to mention is that the second shop it finishing touches are sharper, ring feels a little sharper (photo to be placed)

    and the cage doesn't fit cause of a small protusion on the top of the cage where it meets the ringbase.
    Both cages from second shop shown \/ (left cage has the problem while right cage doesn't have the problem
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    Any more questions or photo's feel free to ask.
     
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    Wow thanks great review Blackstone.
     
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    My knockoff HT3 was the same some of the sharp edges where razor sharp!!
     
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    Does the resin still soften when it gets warm with body heat?
    I had an issue with my knockoff V3 where the cage would warm up and flex the connection with the ring. My balls then seized the opportunity to make a bid for freedom.

    Made the goddess rather grumpy.
     
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    Well I'm wearing it now for about 3 days, the resin does get a little warm as used, but I cannot reshape the ring from my own body heat.

    However, I did resize the ring before use in hot water, If you look really close second row biggest ring, bottompart is a little ''lop-sided''. And by now it's still shaped as I reshaped it.
     
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    Here Is a photo of the ring's finishing touches [​IMG] Left ring is from the first shop, right ring second shop.

    Really hard to photograph the edges inside the ring, just cannot get is sharp enough to see a difference

    Another thing to notice here is that the shape and curved height in this photo is also a little different
     
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    Thank you for this comparative review, very helpful! Do you have an opinion yet as to which shop is supplying the better build quality?
     
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    is this worth buying over the real one?
     
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    Just curious - i bought the knock offs but i'm questioning the dimensions of the rings - most of them look like they have the same diameter - do you have the same issues
     
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    Wow, Nice job ! Thanks.
    I've bought the Nano V4 from Chastebird store and i'm now waiting for the original one from HolyTrainer.
    I will be able to post some pics to compare both...
     
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    chaste bird - i bought it too from them
     
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    I ended up buying from ChasteBird too, it came on thursday and after a bit of prep I've been wearing it since. Super comfortable and it doesn't distort like the v3.

    Now to persuade the goddess that it was only a short-term test!
     
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    I've received the original v4 nano from HolyTrainer.
    As promised here is the comparison.
    In term of shape: Both are 100% similar and parts are fully compatible.
    However the difference is related to the material: guenuine HTv4 is really bioresin, chinese replicas are plastic ones. Feeling is not the same.
    Last point: Colors options are also more limited on knock-off versions

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    Did the knock offs or the real HT have any smell? The plastic on the knock offs that I have purchased in the past have a weird unpleasant smell.
     
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    Awesome thread! W/we ordered an assortment of all 5 cages last week to compare before W/we buy the real one. I wear a HT3 maxi w/45mm ring everyday (the real one, it's my profile photo) and it sounds like there are some fairly major differences in the new version. I'm glad W/we're doing a dry run with the knock offs to size it. I wonder if I can still wear the 45 ring!

    -nancy
     
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    do not remember if my HTV3 had a smell, but the HTV4 definitely does.

    My HTV3 would unlock by itself. The shoulder of the ring would open, from body heat, and it would unlock.
    Metal ring stopped this, but adds too much weight. I did use a zip tie thru the device and kept it closed.
    My HTV4 does not have a hole thru the ring, closed on one side. So would need to open a hole with drill.

    The HTV4 has the same issue of the shoulders, but the device has not unlocked.
    Chaste on Aliexpress said to warm up the ring and close the gap, will only be a temporary fix.Claim you only need 80 degrees of warm h20 to adjust the ring. If that is the case then body heat of 98 will always cause an issue.

    Due to low temp bio resin I do not think this is fit for the designed use. Should issue a full refund. imho
     
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    Here is what happens to my HTV4. Thou unlike the clone V3 never has unlocked ht4crop.jpg
     
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    Well, that's weird. I do confirm that when you change the shape in warm water it will go back to its old shape slowly. But the trick is to change it in 50 degress celsius warm water then hold the new shape thight and put it in ice cold water immediately, worked for me, my body temparature is the same as yours I guess. And I dont have that problem
     
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    my HT V3 clone would unlock and come off when using std ring. Metal ring solved problem but added too much weight
     
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    I have the same problem, but worse. It think the cage bends it out of shape. I had to force it back into place as the lick got stuck, before I could unlock it. Where did yours come from. Mine is a House of Denial clear with small cage

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    The HTV2 had that issue too.
     
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    Does this happen with the genuine Swiss Holy Trainer, or is the bioresin harder?
     
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    "Well, that's weird. I do confirm that when you change the shape in warm water it will go back to its old shape slowly. But the trick is to change it in 50 degress celsius warm water then hold the new shape thight and put it in ice cold water immediately, worked for me, my body temparature is the same as yours I guess. And I dont have that problem[/QUOTE]


    I tried shaping mine the same way. My problem is the gap at the bottom of the cage. The knock offs are all different. Different gap sizes than each other and different than the original holy trainer. My balls would pop out of most of the knock offs unless I wore a too small ring, which was painful.
    Every ring I reshaped with hot water would soon go back to original shape after I wore it for an hour. I would reshape it and bind it in that shape before cooling it in water first then leaving in the freezer for a day. No luck. 1 hour later, I would feel a testicle pop free.
    The original holy Trainer had a perfect gap on the small cage of about 1/2" or less. The nano was a closer tube fit for me but the gap was 3/4" or more. It would just fall off.
    I finally found the gap on a knockoff HT3 nano with the right size gap. It's all hit or miss with the knockoffs.
     
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    Got it from ChasteBird on Aliexpress. Supposed to send replacement, after 2 months nothing. Can not file a claim until mid Jan. 2021
     
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    I just recieved my HT4 NUB only been on for a little bit but it is great so far
     

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