Estimated Population in Chastity

Thanks. This has been really interesting. I hope that somehow "the lights go up" in the next couple of years and we find out the truth...

 

After reading some more posts on this thread I guess we will never really know will we!

 

Think a few years into the future, when key transfers are just a routine part of commitment ceremonies, like marriage or engagement or even "going steady" celebrations. What would that society look like otherwise? What cultural changes would accompany the general acceptance of chastity?

 

It is an interesting exercise! I suppose mores will likely change, although historically, they are just as probable to turn more prudish than permissive over a given time period...

 

I don't think he meant what you interpreted. He didn't write "all men," just "men." Nobody was being forced into anything except somewhere inside your head.

 

My fantasy is that all conscripts in the army should be kept in chastity, which would prevent wartime rapes and violence. Special reserve servicewomen should inspect them, open for cleaning, provide help in masturbation granted for good service. Good service should be assessed by women, no rape, no killings..

 

If you want no rapes and no killings, you need to abolish the army altogether.
Nobody thinks about chastity in a war when it's all about life and death.
When I did my military service, I stayed chaste because I simply had to time for masturbation. We were rushed around every day from 6 a.m. till midnight.

 

It might be that we have different experiences with military service, due to regional differences. I,m from a former East block country. When I was taken for almost a year, the most striking impression about young 18-19yrs old men taken conscripts for a two-year obligatory service was that they were demoralised there on a massive scale, taught hatred against other people, and above all disregard and contempt for women seen solely as sexual objects.
Among war crimes committed in wars in the former Yugoslavia in the '90s rapes and rapes deliberately organized by occupants were the most common. War always means mass-scaledemoralisation and in most cases massive-scale rape of women on captured territories.
Chastity cage changes every man's behaviour. I was merely joking above, but there is some true element in this fantasy

 

That is so sad. That scenario seems to be a pretty powerful argument for Matriarchy. Do you think having strong female rulers in charge might have prevented some of that behavior?

 

* ahem *

https://qz.com/967895/throughout-history-women-rulers-were-more-likely-to-wage-war-than-men/amp/

 

The question wasn’t about starting war. It was about preventing harm to non combatants.

 

An equillibrium is always best. Some men some women from time to time... Nobody too long

 

I like it.

 

It would be really nice if we could be gender neutral in our leadership. I'm not into having women leaders just for the sake of having women leaders, BUT it would be so great for our better half to have even more powerful and inspirational figures to look up to.

 

Once the war is ongoing, the enemy is "the other" and gets treated as less than human. It's how we are able to allow ourselves to kill and demoralize people much like ourselves.

 

Very true Tom its what we do and in part how those that want us to wage their wars both justify and encourage us to do so and indirectly it would seem lessen the potential trauma of being forced to kill others and avenge the deaths of our own.

Far easier to kill a sadistic aggressive sub-human who looks and smells different that has been carrying out atrocities and has strange customs especially that you've never met outside of war.

 

The trouble is, some wars *are* just, and even those on the right side of justice have to fight and kill. As I've recently admitted elsewhere on CM, there might have been more people in my family circles if it wasn't for some having ended up in nazi concentration camps.

We don't have to consider others sub-human to accept the need to kill them, all it takes is knowing they want to kill us.

Ancient and tribal cultures often have myths and rituals and traditions that first help (mostly) men prepare for war, and then leave it behind once it ends. Many so-called Western cultures have been so safe for long we're ill-prepared for the realities of war and it sure shows in how we treat our veterans.

 

That's indeed a fascinating question. How many penises are locked from time to time or permanently, how many keys are in women's purses and drawers, and how many self-locking entusiasts there are?
We wait now for a movie or a Netflix series on people in chastity. Maybe we should try to collect money to subside such movie? I believe that chastity is so good for people, that it's worth of publicity.
Maybe one day men will be coming out with it to inform friends on their lock-up?

 

Hear, hear

Yes, the kink is no doubt growing. However...
It sure seems like most men need to buy noticeably more than one device to find something that will work for them, those devices don't last forever either, and there's always hope the next design might be even better than the current one.

Numbers sold certainly don't equal numbers of locked men. I'd guesstimate that number to be more than an order of magnitude lower.

 

Me too. Those who are eager to wear a chastity device have to try out numerous products, as most of them are crap. Products that comply that little to specifications would normally be returned and the vendors and manufacturers would be sued. The reason why buyers of chastity devices don't do that is obviously because they want to keep their kinks secret. But that's a vicious circle. When the vendors can make false promises without being punished, they make even more false promises.

I believe that many more people buy a chastity cage out of curiosity, and when they realize how unusable it is, they never touch it again. It's like one of the thousand books in the shelf that you never read. So I assume a very low number of permanently chaste people, but more who do it occasually, and many more who tried it once. We can observe that pareto principle in this forum as well: Look at how many users introduct themselves and how few regular users there are.

Of course, it's also a matter of culture and religion. With Europeans being replaced by islamists and the US being dominated by christians who deny evolution, we may be the last remaining practitioners of chastity. It actually seems logical that chaste men are dying out while those who fuck women every day reproduce most. I wonder why gay and submissive men didn't die out millions of years ago already. Maybe it's a selection advantage to have some fraction of the offspring being submissive so there are not only those who fuck but also some who work. If everyone would just fuck all the time and nobody would work, the whole clan would soon die from famine.

 

Given thar I belive the CB series of devices has sold over 1.5m with all the other device manufacturers world wide may be 40m or 50m devices have been sold over the last 15 years or so.
Taking that may be 1% of those are sold to pepole who take chastity further than a one time or occasional thing, and that of those 1 % of devices most pepole who practice chastity have cycled through multiple devices maybe an average of 5(it's probably more than that especially now we have cheap Chinese devices flooding the market) I would estimate that there are probably no more than 100,000 real chaste men globally (who use chastity devices)
So there are more supposedly chaste Catholic priests than chastity players!
I would estimate.

That's why there are so few regular contributers to chastity boards.

Not sure what you all make of that but irs a reasoned guestimate

 

Although I too think it is an increasing trend for males to use chastity devices, overall I'd still guess it is a minor kink at the moment. There are several others that have wider participation and notice.

 

Ah, but the 3d printing revolution is afoot!

You can literally buy a machine, the material, and print your own custom plastic chastity device for less than what it costs to buy a custom stainless device.

Not only is chastity more accessible, it's more non-public. So good luck to the tech savvy males of the future cause their junk is gonna be locked down tighter than their browser settings when looking at youporn.

 

It would've been useful to cage-close all bishops and large majority if catholic priests.