The Permanent Chastity/Denial Matrix

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    In that case I also express my sincere thanks to Mrs. Edge!
     
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    And of course today's update, having 34 guys on board. Any first analysis or discussions? CM_Caged-denied score_06.jpg
     
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    You're going to need to use a smaller font... and am I the only chaste male who has extrapolated on the scale?
     
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    Based on the latest calibration of the scale I am revising my coordinates to Caged: 8 and Denied: 7
     
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    #105 Hut6000, Jun 18, 2020
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    Im about 5 caged and 7,5 denied :)

    I like the idea of this :)

    Edited after reading def. by Retrix
     
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    We have a lot of Caged guys on the 8 line, plus another trend on the 6 line.

    On the Denied line we have a lot of guys on the 6 and. 7 lines.
     
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    I am still a 7,6 it appears! Usually caged, frequently denied.

    I don't see this changing too much, my wife is happy where we are I think...
     
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    Would it be fair to say that those who are higher up on the caged scale but lower on the denied scale are either new (like myself) or are doing this without an active keyholder (perhaps their partner is apathetic to chastity, they aren't into the power switch part?)

    upload_2020-6-19_8-57-43.png

    I have plotted the scores using the caged number as the base and the denied number as the variable (i.e. if someone is only caged minimally, it would be expected that they are not denied and vice versa, if someone is caged frequently, it would be expected they would be denied.)

    The plot does show a strong correlation between being the higher value (or longer) being caged, the more likely it is to be denied. Ofcourse there are variations away from the norm. Progression vs timeline could be an interesting one too, the longer that people have been experience chastity or denial, how have things changed over time?

    Its a bit crude / simplistic and my stats paper was many years ago to offer any more detailed response to the graph.....
     
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    But the more measurements that you can get, the better the graphs and line fit will become. Right now there are 48,960 members give or take a couple of hundred females. Our sample size of 38 is not very representative (although it could be). We're never going to get a complete population, but a more realistic sample size of 1000 should see the variance come down.

    The other alternative is that all keyholders' have to align their cock locking/denial strategy to make the graph look perfect.
     
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    Oops...I do hope that once we need to collect data from all CM users we are able to create an "automatic graph generator"....In particular I am interested in the viewpoint of the 100 KH's who joins us. The rated value's of their "be locked ones" might me much more representative!
     
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    I have a question that's totally off topic. Why isn't this thread listed on either the top 5 most views, or 5 most liked threads. I'm just curious. You would think with 5 pages of responses it would be listed. If it was you might have a lot more responses to it and get more data.
     
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    I've just realised my axis labels are the wrong way round (my own caged 6 denied 0 appears as denied 6 caged 0),corrected now below.

    upload_2020-6-19_13-38-39.png

    Apologies, rushing at work.
     
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    It wouldn't take much effort to create a web page for data entry. I've never done anything with XenForum, but it's pHp with a MySQL backend so should be too difficult....
     
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    8/8 for me
     
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    Never until today I went through this chart.
    After reading the definitions I found myself at C7 D6.
    Thought I would rank higher but I didn't count in last year's 10/10 here as it was one time thing (for now at least)
     
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    The thread started six months ago, but is only now generating some interest. A lot of responses are only within the last two weeks.
     
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    I didn't even notice yesterday.

    I tried to make this simple and easy so I put Caged on the X axis and Denied on the Y because I thought remembering it alphabetically seemed more natural.
     
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    Besides a current snapshot, it would be interesting to see a plot of my own C,D trajectory over the years.
     
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    When Mrs Edge and I started it, it literally was a long term of being locked up. We didn't plan it, it just sort of happened, going week to week. I was usually, but not always denied, and often allowed out for sex. So for the first few years, I was at a lopsided 3, 6 or 4, 7.

    We tried a few different dildos, but it was only after the Vixskin (and I can't say enough good things about them) that it "clicked" for her, and whenever we played, it went to a 6,6 or 7,7. It's only within the last 2+ years that we started looking at this as permanent on both scales, which has pushed it up to 8, 8.
     
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    Put me down for a 7 caged, 6 denied, but that is only because she is still learning. The cage has had to come off a few times for abrasions, and she has (thankfully) screwed up a few ruineds. The most amusing being last week when she unlocked me and gave me 7 minutes. 2 years ago that wouldn't have been enough time, but now... I think I made a mistake when I asked (after only 1 minute) if I could have 2nd's. The fact that she subsequently broke the key off in the lock and filled it with nail polish and locked the polish away to prevent tampering suggests I may be sliding up the scale soon!
     
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    Today's results...It starts to become crowded at some places... CM_Caged-denied score_07.jpg
     
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    7, 7 seems to be the mean, with numbers trending around that point.

    I guess that would make sense in a group like this. I wonder how the numbers would work out in a more vanilla-oriented group?
     
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    I would like to hold the honored privilege of anchoring the lower-left corner. My wife thinks 'kink' is having vanilla sex more often. While she agreed to try being my keyholder over a year ago, she's terrible about it, so I took the cage off, and her key away (which was just fine with her.) I may go a week or 10-days without an O occasionally, but that's only because I am busy, or not in the mood - other than that, I am never denied by her. So... 0,0 please. If and when I move up the scale, I'll let ya'll know.
     
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    LOL - many years ago some friends tried to fix me up with a girl. "You'll like her, she's kinky."

    Her idea of kinky was having sex in the daytime. Oh, and oral once in a while. I'm not even joking.

    Once when I told her that I wasn't wearing any underwear, she freaked. I mean, like. "What is wrong with you? That's perverted!" freaked.

    No, it didnt work out well.
     
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    Never unlocked. Never allowed orgasm.
     
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