No orgasms ever or limited?

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    Hi I am new to the mansion we started chastity nearly 1 years ago my key holder wife had no idea what it was we were in a sex shop and she asked what is that. I explained it's a cock cage and the benefits of it, after a few drinks at new years I ordered one and she was excited. We played for a few weeks and the very next day after a release we had an argument which set her thinking. The next time it was on for 3 months without an orgasm but she wanted PIV while on holiday after that it has been on now and still is without orgasm for over 4 months now, as I was reading articles to her where mistresses said after years of doing chastity they believe the man should never have an orgasm, she is now of the thinking that this is best and has said she has no intention of letting me orgasm anytime soon.
    She loves daily massages and the way I crave and treat her and says she does not want it to stop ever.
    She does not really like strap on sex and does not really like oral sex or even cliterious stimulation but has now found she likes me to take viagra and use numbing cream etc so she can have orgasms with PIV although I am not allowed to orgasm.
    My question is this and please mistresses or subs answer I am extremely happy but long term some have said the sub needs something to look forward to as in a orgasm sometimes where others seem to suggest subs dont need orgasms and it's better they dont have that feeling to think off. She is keen to keep me locked and I'm happy but would like to know what works long term to keep the interest so should the sub have a few orgasms a year or never have any?
    I am hoping in time she relaxes and starts to enjoy other ways to have her orgasms whether oral or strap on, but will let her find her feet and be comfortable as she is getting more determined for me to stay in chastity as she always said I could have an orgasm next month for my birthday but she has said that will definitely not be happening now.
     
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    To me if you are content with her direction of your life, then that is all that matters. I'd suggest you just continue to have open and real conversations about your chastity, her needs and how to make ti work. As long as both of you are satisfied it should be good.
     
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    I agree and thanks for you reply, I am very happy and love serving her and I am hopeful she will get even stronger although she does already insist chastity is 24/7 apart for cleaning and occasionally her pleasure. I am happy to do exactly what she says I did not know if subs in chastity without orgasm for over a year etc and not being overly dominated by her sexual pleasure would find problems. I want this to work more than anything and wanted to make it full proof for the future as some have said if the sub needs occasionally to receive orgasm.
     
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    for most people, never again is just too much. How frequently is initially a matter of negotiation and then a matter of interpretation. Her interpretation,

    Good luck
     
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    It seems to be working for both of you. No need to address a problem that might never occur. If it does become an issue later, you can address it at that time.

    Of course it's already too late. I should have said "if it becomes an issue for her, then she can address it". It's too late for you. (just kidding.... kinda)
     
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    All you really need is the chance that "today may be the day". As long as you have a penis and she has the option to let you have an orgasm, that is all you really need. I want inside my Mistress SOOO bad but I would only last 30 seconds inside her and then my drive for her would crash and it would take a while to get back into the sub zone where I can't stop thinking of her and an intense drive to make her happy. That one minute of pleasure comes with such a high price for both of you. Mistress knows that I would orgasm almost instantly inside of her so she doesn't really any benefit to me having an O. It can always happen though and I probably won't know until it happens.
     
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    I get 2-5 ejaculations a year, but we try to ruin the orgasm when the time comes. I don't look forward to orgasms/ejaculation, or view them as a reward nowadays. I focus on giving pleasure, and just general sensual and bdsm stuff, and I've found that being free of expecting any release frees me to focus on the giving. I'm 3 months into 6 months without, which is the longest I've ever gone, and I find it freeing to not have to consider anything but being locked, and giving pleasure. Now, whether we continue intervals as long as 6 months will depend on prostate health and what comes out when I am required to ejaculate. If it looks OK, it will be back in for another 6 months with no release, if it doesn't look healthy, then I'll have repeated releases till it look OK again. if that's the case we will likely go down a couple of months (4 maybe) till we find an interval that releases normal (I've had a vasectomy, which makes judging a bit hard) looking semen. That's our plan anyhow.
     
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    My advice: Follow her wishes. It will lead you down a lifelong path of joy (on most days). Mess it up and lose her and you will regret it for life.
     
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    Thankyou everyone for the advice we are both new to chastity and I absolutely worship her. We both want this for our relationship and and want her to feel she is loved more than she could ever be forever so I am more than happy for her to take control and lead me as she seems fit, it's just that there seems to be conflicting advice about orgasms for the sub and want things to work forever.
    At the minute she loves my behaviour and constant attention and daily massages and think she likes the idea I will always be faithful to her which I would anyway, I will do anything she would ask of me now and in the future without hesitation and hope this will developed into a bit more of a FLR or at least her asserting more control to get want she needs and deserves as after 4 months of being denied I crave her direction when my sexual frustration builds.
    I do admit it is a turn on the thought of being controlled and never being allowed an orgasm if I am honest I did not think she would she would insist on it so soon after starting chastity but she is my princess and I hope she grows in strength to build a life where she is completely satisfied and happy because that's what will make me happy.
    Thanks again for the advice.
     
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    This whole situation with orgasms can be pretty tricky. I tell my wife i dont want to have any orgasms, yet when she is edging me, i beg her for an orgasm. My wife likes to give me orgasms, but she knows i am moody and less submissive after an orgasm.

    So my advice would be to let her dictate when you have orgasms. You don’t want to have no orgasms at all. I find that the possibility of receiving an orgasm while being intimate is very exciting and arousing for me. Anticipation of the unknown i guess you can call it. If you know there’s no possibility of orgasm, it is not as exciting.

    On the other end of the spectrum, you dont want to have too many orgasm. There is less of a buildup and they are not as exciting.

    My wife allows me an orgasm on average once every 4 months or so. And it works perfectly for both of us.
     
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    Four months and she "insists" you stay locked and you're new at it? She's doing fine. Be quiet, worship her and do what she says.
     
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    I agreed to be locked permanently by my key holder in July of 2015, which was something I'd always wanted, and she was more than happy to lock me without orgasms for the rest of my life. I was to have 1 orgasm in each of 2015, 2016, and 2017 on unknown dates, and then no more forever. I was definitely looking forward to her never allowing me to cum again, something I'd wanted for a very long time. For my attempt in 2015, I couldn't get erect in the 5 minute time limit she set for me, so I had to wait until my second try to cum again sometime in 2016. My key holder and I parted ways before I made it to the second attempt.

    Now, I always feel disappointed after an orgasm because it's not worth the few seconds of pleasure. I'm currently pussy-free and coming up on my three year anniversary of having my penis retired by my wife at the end of February. I'm occasionally given a hand job, but I'm finished fucking for life.
     
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    Cagedandinlove, you are right about conflict. Here's the deal: I truly want an orgasm, yes, but what I really want is female power over me, and that includes HER keeping me locked. But it must come from her for her, not her doing it for me.
     
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    I couldn’t agree more. The key holder has to enforce it and need to one to drive the chastity otherwise you never really feel the power over you.
     
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    OMG we are all the same lol. I completely agree you need to feel her enforce it or it's not the same. I have annoyed her a little this week when I kept asking you do want this for you and you not doing this to make me happy and it is what you want...then said do you think I will still not have an orgasm and be locked up this time next year. She said yes you wont be cumming and will be locked why do you ask. It's just I do think she is being nice and doing chastity to make me happy. I really dont want that I want it because she insists on it, although a couple of months ago i knew were the keys were and have been dropping massive hints but she did not pick up on them, one weekend after a few drinks and an amazing night that I did not expect i felt so much guilt i said i know where the keys are take them so i cant get them....she went mental and was so upset it made me think she really does want this for her. The next morning she made me chop up the spare keys we had with bolt croppers, we had loads because of Chinese cages with the same locks. She stood there watching and took all the pieces and said now how do you feel? I said fucked now but really happy thankyou!
    I still wish I really knew she was doing it all for her own reasons and not to make me happy, but hey ho being under her thumb makes me so happy.
     
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    First off, remember everyone and every couple is different. What works for my wife/KH and I may not work for you. Most of us here eventually come to realize that orgasm is not the be-all end-all of sexual pleasure. In fact, many of us, me included, almost come to fear orgasm because of the intense drop off that occurs immediately afterward. For us, it works for me to be locked 24/7 in an Evotion Bijou, anchored by a frenum piercing. It's very comfortable and very secure. It will nor come off without the key, short of using power tools and risking considerable blood loss! I remove it every week or so under supervision for cleaning, shaving, inspection, etc, after which it goes right back on. My last erection and orgasm was via masturbation in her presence in July or so. I've come to accept that as long as we are both alive, I'll remain locked and I won't have PIV again. And we both love it!
     
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    You will feel the need to ask often but if you two survive this early part you, as the slave, will realize you don't need to ask. Instead, just tell her you are amazed that she wants this for her more than you do, more than you anticipated, and this is hot. Reinforce how sexy she is over and over, how hot to the touch she is. This will, usually, reinforce how much she likes it all. When you really, really want out, like you are desperate, try to think of how the power over you just feels right. You like feeling owned. Maybe peruse a few Chastity Mansion posts to take your mind off the desire to cum. (Like me right now.)
     
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    Sorry dont know how to work this forum yet lol.
    Slave to wife ...think you are right the time will tell and I will know and not have to ask.
    I do like the thought of being owned by her and would love her to punish me so she can get anything out of it she desires and make me more submissive to get more again but in the mean time she can leave me locked and develop her strengths.
    Mind you could let her look on here at this then I would be in trouble lol.
     
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    Positive reinforcement is an important part of FLR in my opinion. I orgasm about twice a year on average. We have no set release date and that really helps me because I know it could happen at any time. She also rewards me with other things, simple things like eating a certain food I like or other non-sexual things. I think my service is better with these simple rewards.
     
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    My Wife(KH) and I are very new to MC. We started about 14 months ago. I knew very little about wearing cages and my Wife had never heard of it. I showed her a few on the "net" and we ordered one. She couldn't get it on me fast enough when it arrived. She now has full control of my penis. It has to be clean, shaved and caged at all times. She will release me when she wants and will make me cum, even if I don't want to. She can get me to beg for a orgasm and to beg not to have one. After 3-4 weeks, I sometimes don't know what I want. She can bring me to the edge, or let me have a ruined orgasm or just make me cum for her amusement. A few times, when I'm tied to the bed, she will just keep making me cum over and over until she gets bored of watching me. And there is nothing I can do to stop her. So, I'm not limited, but I have no control of when I get any release. I don't look forward to a orgasm any more...I look forward to the T&D sessions, being tied up and helpless, and serving my Wife(KH).
     
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    You are so lucky, I can only go about 3 weeks without having an accident and a ruined orgasm. My wife allows it and always makes me do my clean up duty. It's been about a year since my last full blown orgasm, but I really need to increase my time between ruined orgasm to about 1 every 3 months.
     
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    As previously outlined above, its a couple thing that will be different for all. However, ours is a permanently locked and denied relationship as it developed into this from what we both wanted. To be locked and denied with no release date is something that focuses your attentions on where it should be, her enjoyment and the enjoyment of being the one who gives it to her. That can be from a sexual activity or day to day life. I do go through times when I regret it, but with good communication we have always come out the other side stronger and more devoted to each other.
    Don't stress about it, let the journey take you to wherever it leads, if you force or rush it you may miss out on some of the best moments you can have in a relationship. Talk lots and often, don't be afraid to tell your partner how you feel and what you are going through, without good communication how can you expect your partner to know.
     
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    My advice is that if you trust her and her judgment you don't have to worry. Whatever her choice will take into account the good of both. I understand that everything went very quickly, but trust me many consider you lucky .. not so much for the permanent denial but for the fact that she immediately found her role. Think of herself and her benefit and not of you .. my wife, for example, cannot do it. So enjoy the situation :)
     
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    I guess I am one of the lucky ones, my wife/KH allows me quite a few orgasms but only to her schedule. We have been in chastity for over 5 years, but lots of that time was honor system and a way to make up for my loss of hardness as I got older. Then my world crashed when I was accused by one of her friends my sex Drive loss was because of cheating and I was forced into full time chastity without an orgasm for 3+ months. When the truth came out, my wife wanted to walk away from chastity, however, some of my punishments during that time were interesting and I wanted to continue. We came to an agreement and it’s working great.

    I am locked full time and she controls my orgasms. My only time out is for hygiene and when she wants control to either use me, milk me, or let me cum. We have honored Locktober and December where the cage on only came off while I was bound for trimming or hair removal.

    she does have a calendar on the wall with days circled, mostly on weekends that determine the activity. One color is for ladies night where one or more of her girl friends will be over for private intimacy or drinks and fun and I will be serving them with nothing but my cage on. Twice I have been the focal point with her and he bi lover for their dildo party and I am left a used and worn out individual left a leaking mess.

    then there is ride night, where I am given a viagra, tied face up on the bed, numbing cream and either wearing two condoms or a penis extender while she rides away after I lick her to bliss. The wildest is when she put a strap on and extender on me and rode with both holes filled while all I could do is watch the expressions on her face.

    then there is milking night, where after she is spent by riding my tongue, she probes my ass until drip out tons of fluid, no orgasm but some relief. The special night is when I have no demerits and it’s pleasure night, I am released and allowed to have her as many times as I want until I can’t get it up anymore even with viagra. Once that happens, the cage goes back on and the cycle starts again.

    Don’t think it’s all pleasure, infringements of agreed rules is meant with punishment. Infractions are met with punishment, from separation in a cage to a harsh whipping. Not those whippings where blood is spilt of wounds left, but nice redness that stings and makes me cry and scream. Various devices from floggers, paddles, a belt, and even a cane are used, but care and location are used to avoid injury. She says it’s better to have intact skin for several nights of punishment rather than having to wait for skin to heal. So I try to keep my indiscretions to a minimum, but sometime enjoy the punishment.

    all in all, I have a great wife/mistress/KH.
     
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