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Discussion in 'Site announcements and information' started by Breathe, Aug 4, 2018.

  1. L-u-c-y
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    The moderators at the time were very wishy washy and chose not to ban him.
     
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    Starting such discussions about members is why a list is quite a bad idea...
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    Joroincharge Lock em up - 24/7/365!!

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    I don't recall his case coming up when I was a Mod. But in any case at that time Mods did not have the functionality to ban anyone, (except the initial spammers.) Only Admin could do that and that would have been either Jens or his predecessors in title: MW/Liam

    Is this changed now, i.e. can @maid_carrie ban of his own volition?
     
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    I think it would create a lot of work with no real benifit.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if many of the members that were banned just created new user names under different email accounts. I suppose in the end they have to play by the rules if they want to stay and not have another account banned.
     
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    As you noted in your post, in some forums, admins/mods ban for their own reasons. You can argue if the reason is a good one or a bad one, but a forum is not a democracy. Having a list with explanations only opens up the staff to having to justify their decisions. And human nature being what it is, who's going to admit that they were wrong about a decision because a certain percentage of the membership think differently? Some members will agree for whatever reason given, others will not. Having a list with explanations opens up the court of public opinion, and that's anarchic at best. It's just a way of making a bad idea even worse.
     
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    I am sure they do. There has been a lot of food for thought in this thread and I am mulling it over and will consider further,

    But @lockit has a point, in the work entailed setting it up. I do think it could be a benefit if done the right way but may well not be worth the candle.
     
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    Presumably, the administrators/mods can see the IP addresses people are posting from. Someone who's banned and creates another account would be posting from the same IP unless they went through a VPN to mask their actual IP address (and they'd eventually screw up and forget to do that).
     
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    Food for thought here too. And you yourself having previously been banned by Jens for some reason at the same time as M^S had been, you will have spoken with more understanding than practically anyone else. I never quite worked out why you were banned, TBH: but glad to see you back now.:):):)
     
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    Yes Mods can. I know. But people don't always log in from same place, and VPNs are increasingly common, so value here limited.
     
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    Home IP addresses aren't permanent. They could change periodically (although they won't necessarily change regularly) and will definitely be different when people move to a new ISP. Good for short term tracking though.
     
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    They'll remain on the same IP range/subnet, though, unless and until they move out of their service provider's area or change providers.
     
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    I think people on this thread are focusing on something that's not that important in the scheme of things. There will always be idiots who get themselves banned. Does it matter?
     
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    It looks like the mansion was built on banning, this was from about 2009 I think...

    banned.jpg
     
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    What's the point of a banned list?
    If these people are banned anyway, it's just a list of meaningless handles.
    As for how the bans are done, it's moot. There are ways around all of it with VPNs/new email accounts and so on. all you can really do is try to uphold standards fairly, weed out the bad apples and hope they change their ways if they decide to come back.
    I'm not sure a list of past transgressors will do any good, as if these people come back, they'll do so under a different handle anyway.
     
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    CM wasn't built on banning at all. That pic had other context. I remember well, forget the date.
     
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    Depending on the ban system, I'd question the judgement of mods who repeatedly ban someone yet let them back. The only system I saw that did such a thing in a logical way started with a 1-hour ban, and each successive ban doubled the time. The 10th ban was permanent. Ban information was logged into the person's profile so anyone could see how many times the person was banned. Someone banned once for an hour? Maybe not a big deal, and a bad ban wouldn't have an impact. Someone at 8 bans, though...they clearly aren't because of cranky mods; it's someone who has trouble following rules.
     
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    Instead, how about a list of members who are who they claim to be? At least it would be short and low maintenance.
     
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    Recent events have shaken many people, so it's obvious in hindsight that the natural reaction is one of over-reaction. Besides this thread, there is the main thread that exposed a now-banned member, one about males pretending to be females, and maybe one or two others. Plus a lot of chatter in PM's & chat.

    In time, this too shall pass. There have been other scandals here. New members will continue to appear who know nothing of what happened before. The old-timers will tell the tales once more, and new scandals will be exposed. As Shakespeare said, there's nothing new under the sun.

    I'm bringing this up in order to suggest that maybe we don't need to go overboard with 'lists' or 'methods' or excessive attempts at preventing it from happening again. From my perspective, the Mansion is running smoother right now than it ever has. Nothing I've seen suggested so far would have prevented the most recent scandal from happening. The two most important things this site has always needed is strong central management that has a clear vision & bothers to show up every day; and a small, efficient mod team who work in harmony together, as well as to the vision of the boss. I've lived through two regimes that had neither of these, and the difference between then and now is painfully clear.

    Not to say that little tweaks here and there can't hurt; the best sites always evolve. But there is a whiff of hysteria in some threads I've seen over the past week or two. The sooner that feeling fades, the better. At least in my opinion.
     
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    Excellent. Very well put.
     
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    @Billus ... I wasn't really serious about the list, it was an attempt at being light-hearted. The fewer lists there are the better, I think.
     
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    A banned user list must already exist for the admins and mods to refur to. This is all that needs to be done.

    Why would we need to know who is and isn’t banned. We only need to know that people on here aren’t banned. That’s something taken care of for us
     
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    I don't think a list of banned users would do any good.
    fetlife is a Canadian site and they didn't like what I was saying about USA politics,in a room FOR USA politics.
    even though it is none of their business they banned me.
    so I agree that a list of banned people would do no good.
     
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