Getting back to basics and the original Chastity Mansion charter

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  1. L-u-c-y
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    In light of some recent events I think the site has gone off track and we need to get back to the basics.

    I would like to see an end to the following things:

    1. Males pretending to be women - verification encouraged but optional.
    2. Fantasies masquerading as reality - we have a fiction section and we would love to hear your stories, please use it.
    3. Any talk of women being submissive - if this is your fetish and want to discuss it there are many other sites for it.
    4. Any talk of women being used like they are pieces of meat or tools for males to get off.
    5. Male fetishes should be seen as secondary, not the main reason for taking part.

    This is not censorship, it's just keeping the site on topic. These things should not affect the vast majority of posts.

    This is the original Chastity Mansion charter from 2008 when the site was founded....

    https://www.chastitymansion.com/forums/index.php?threads/welcome-to-chastity-mansion.28485/

    In my opinion the site has lost it's way over the years, it was created as a MALE chastity site, I think politically correct moderators have had their own agendas and steered it to include female chastity and female submission.

    I think it's time to get the site back to it's core values.

    This is my interpretation of the charter.....

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    Welcome to Chastity Mansion!
    We’re pleased you found your way here, these are the topics you can expect to find discussed in our forums:

    Male Chastity ~ Orgasm Denial ~ Sissies ~ D/s and Female Lead Relationships ~ Cuckolding

    This is what I think the original meanings were meant to be...

    Male chastity - Not female chastity. not men locking women, not women locking other women.

    Orgasm denial

    Sissies - Crossdressing as part of a chastity relationship / female led relationship. I don't think it was ever meant to be a sissy site for single sissies to meet and get off with each other.

    D/s and female led relationships - Not male led relationships, not men dominating or degrading women, not females dominating other females.

    Cuckolding - Cuckolding situations where the woman is dominant and in control, not the kind of cuckolding where the husband wants to "watch my wife submissively jackhammered like a slut by a giant cock". That sounds more like swinging to me. This is not a place to discuss cuckold porn.

    In our search for good Male Chastity sites on the net we found many professional Dominatrix sites (for a fee!) and plenty of sites for those heavily involved in the BDSM scene. What we did not find was an entry-level safe haven which provided a fast, clean, reliable site for discussing our journey.

    We aim to cater for all levels of experience, but primarily want to provide a safe haven for those on the more inexperienced side of these lifestyles. This does not mean you are excluded if you are living the D/s life, please come in and share your secrets to success.

    Not every Domme is born that way, she may need time to discover her inner Goddess. Not every submissive is the perfect slave/pet/sissy – they need somewhere to share their fears and learn to serve their Mistress/Princess/Goddess/Wife…

    It's quite clear this site is meant to be about about submissive males serving their Mistress/Princess/Goddess/Wife, not women serving or submitting to men.

    I would add this:
    You don't have to be a submissive male to take part in the site, but you must be respectful of others. This doesn't mean all men have to submit to all women or it's a site about female superiority, it simply means that this is not the place for crude or derogatory talk about women.


    This is a community, for those who wish to discuss their chosen paths, in a relaxed, care-free environment.

    We will NOT tolerate spamming, trolls, hatred or discrimination in any sense.

    I think members and former moderators have taken this to mean that they can post anything they like, even if it's at odds with the sites charter.

    Here’s hoping you find this site fast, efficient and friendly. We will always be looking to improve, so please suggest anything you would like to see on the site, or tell us if you find you are experiencing problems.
     
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    I don’t think you’ll ever get rid of all of the men pretending to be women. This problem predates the Internet, probably predates BBSs and is probably as old as the Hill. Likewise on people passing off ficti9n as reality. So I commend you for doing all you can to limit it.

    Kudos to you. May you have success.

    As far as the other items. As a member since not long after the site was created, I’m glad to hear more effort will be made to address these issues. It sucks to have an inncident that shakes things up, but sometimes good like this comes from it. So again, kudos for making the effort to improve the site and to do the things you have listed!
     
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    a verification photo of the male holding a photo id should be supplied otherwise membership should be denied
     
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    This chastity worm believes that the intent of the "verification" ability/option will primarily be for those members claiming to be Female. males are obviously males, LOL.
     
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    I thought this site was about male chastity and males submitting to females
     
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    @L-u-c-y how do I go about verifying myself as a woman on here please :) I’m very much liking this idea of verification
    LP
     
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    Bravo, L-U-C-Y.
     
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    I agree with this. There will be problems like this on any internet-based community. None of us can stop it. Occasionally, specific individuals, such as Mascara Snake recently, will be identified and dealt with appropriately. (as he/she was-thanks L-U-C-Y)

    And I believe that the site's Charter is sufficiently broad to accommodate a wide range of practices-obviously within the prescribed limits. My beautiful wife/KH and I are completely vanilla to all outward appearances, despite the fact that I am locked more or less 24/7. We don't engage in many of the more extreme (for lack of a better word) practices that others here enjoy. And I have no intention of judging what any consenting adults want to do with each other. I don't cross dress, she has no interest in cuckolding, but we still love our lifestyle. And feel completely comfortable posting here. I hope and anticipate that it will stay that way.
     
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    Not everyone has an ass as cute as yours to display :)
     
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    Much food for thought here. My initial 0.02p:

    1. Do you have a link to the original 2008 post of it. I'd like to see if there were any comments at the time. I joined in 2009 but this is so long ago now that I have forgotten it! I know you didn't join till years later but you should be able to find it somewhere. I can't!

    2. I wonder if it would be worth asking MW who started the site if she'd like to comment. And Jens too as co-owner for that matter. But for him there'd now be no CM at all. Though if my memory serves (correct if I'm wrong) i think Mascara was a Mod even in the latter days of MW,

    3. CM has just gone through a trauma with the culmination of the Mascara episode. To my mind the person was and is unbalanced, regardless of gender. Nothing more than an elaborate and sophisticated troll. So sad Jens (and MW too if I'm right) got so taken in. But 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing, and many others got taken in too!

    4. That said, I'm always wary of knee-jerk reactions. I think the best developments over the years have been gradual. And there have been many: by MW herself, by Jens and by you. Some of the old ones, e.g. option for mood settings, are here no more and I'd like them back at some stage, but no great hurry.

    5. There always has been and will always need to be IMO a place to air off-topic matters, which is here as the Bar. I'd like t feel that pretty much anything can go there and I don't want to see posts riled out of order or deleted even if not within the Charter definition. And I especially dislike finding topics once open for free discussion being blocked or barred now. This is a legacy site.

    6. I do not think it always possible to prevent, or even detect, fantasy posts. IMO one of the most common of these is males, not pretending to be female, but pretending to be locked or dominated by (usually) as F SO, who's not a member and won't join. No amount of verification will put a stop to that. And F members can (though much less common I'm sure) have fantasy posts too! Example could be one who posts on the seeking/soliciting board pretending to be an experienced multi-KH when she is nothing of the kind and just looking for business, but there's insufficient evidence to bar her on findom or other such grounds.

    More thoughts here later.
     
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    Why not? Might be a nice change from recent events. Remove some vitriolic nonsense and see where it all goes
     
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    I have really been liking the direction the mansion has taken and I think it's fantastic that the charter has been renewed so to speak. I think most people here understand the overall philosophy of CM but it's good to be reminded of the policies. I have learned a lot here and not only about male chastity but a lot about women, relationships and a lot about who I am. That wouldn't have been possible if it weren't for members that had more experience with relationships, life and the chastity lifestyle. I feel the women I engaged with in conversation here were really women, it seems pretty easy to figure out if you talk with someone long enough, nevertheless I think the ID verification is a great thing. Moreso for men than women, we men are the gullible ones who might take bad advice offered by a fake mistress but again it's up to us to make our own decisions and to decide what is right for us.

    @L-u-c-y I was also wondering if there will be a campaign to rid the forum of any content that is deemed negative towards women or counterproductive to the chastity lifestyle with the reintroduction of the charter?

    I really appreciate the time and hard work the owners as well as the moderators have put in to make CM what it is today.
     
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    Well hopefully people will take heed of this post and will stop posting negative things about women, and nothing will need to be removed. :)
     
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    1. It wasn't a thread, it was posted on the home page and there was no way to comment on it.

    2. I don't think that's required, the things I have mentioned are just common sense.

    4. I wasn't just referring to the mascara snake incident, there have been a few crude and disrespectful posts lately. If these posts are left unchecked they will encourage more.

    5. My opinion is there is no place here for talk about women being submissive. As you know joro, it's tough for women to be dominant in a world of dominant men, this should be a haven away from talk of women being submissive. We have seen how gullible men are, we don't want to fill their minds with mixed messages.

    6. There is no way to stop all cases of fakes and fantasy masquerading as reality, but if we draw a line in the sand and say it's not acceptable it will hopefully put a good number off of doing it.
     
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    If you are still talking about advertising, you made 12 posts about it, it was boring everyone to death and driving advertisers away.
     
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    I think Mistress Lucy is absolutely correct. Honestly, we should all be truly grateful that Mistress Lucy is taking a strong leadership role in protecting this space as a venue for male chastity discussions and female dominance. Obviously these are concepts which appeal to all of us and knowing that Mistress Lucy is keeping this space authentic and genuine will set this site apart from the others which are home to big circle jerk fakery. Either we agree with what Mistress Lucy is saying -- so we should be thankful -- or we don't. But in that case, we're all into female dominance, right? So she's asserting her dominance over us. Let's just be thankful!
     
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    Yes Miss Lucy you are right I think you give the site the good old original structure as the beginning. You speak total clear and I love this. But can I add chastity can also go without a device. If you are strong enough if not lock it:)
     
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    I for one am hoping this post will generate a few changes that wil help make CM what is was and perhaps more like as intended.

    We may lose a few people on the way. But most renovations require a little stripping back.
    So a small price to pay especially small if some we lose are any kind of fakes.
     
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    1. Ah thanks. No wonder I could not find it! Presumable as Admin you had access to old page in history not visible to rest of us. But good to see it on home page now!

    2. Yes it is of course mainly common sense. But my point is you felt CM had gone astray. On the whole I don't think it has. There have been ups and downs and a major trauma just now re Amanda, but I'd say 98% of current posts are well within the spirit of the original charter. And with the background of my prior (many!) dealings with MW I think she would concur if she looked at the site now. Ditto Jens, despite his problems and errors of judgement re Mascara,

    4. Ah. There have been a few but not many that I have noticed. Maybe some got reported and deleted prior to my spotting them. But I'm sure Mascara was the trigger for all this.

    5. No I agree of course in basic terms. But occasionally relationships are blurred at the edges. People switch to try out what's best for them. Sometimes an FD/ms relationship started out the other way for instance, and members may wish to post what it had been like prior and what caused them to change. Or there may be a triangular relationship with different aspects applicable to each side of the triangle so the male chastity cannot be looked at in isolation. These are of course tangents, but I've seen enough decades of life in the school of hard knocks to know things are not always as black and while as some may wish.

    6. Totally with you on that one! Though not sure how many it WILL put off as very often no way to detect or check. But certainly worth the statement!:):):)
     
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    Was a bit so, but I was meaning generally; and I mainly wanted a hanger for others to say their bit as I'd said my bit and felt others should not be denied if they wanted. But cuold equally apply to any other subject! Who knows what may come up?
     
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    @Joroincharge

    With a quick search I found these examples of posts that I think are unacceptable...

    Lap-up duty is a privilege after a real man has pumped your slutwife's cunt full of his superior essence. So is cleaning her bull's cock and asshole as a sign of submission.

    I LOVE BLACK COCKS IN MY GF. Even more than my own and because she is a BBC LOVING WHORE

    “You can have four cocks in that cunt of yours if you play your cards right. I have an idea. Have you ever wanted to be a cheerleader?”

    just a moment he thought about climbing on top of his wife, holding her down and forcing his cock inside her wet, sloppy cunt.
     
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    For me ....Cuckold fantasy rubbish is one good reason for not wanting it on CM
    and then there is the blatent lack of respect in at least two of those sentences.

    I respectfully suggest warning whoever posted those then suspending or banning them if they repeat that crap.
     
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    Posts like that are outrageous and wholly out of order. I am wholly 1000% with you on that. And IMO members making them should be warned first time, and if repeated banned. And a public announcement made if need be. They have and never had any legitimate place on CM at all. Ever!

    But mercifully I have seen very few indeed of that ilk. Maybe they've been just in posts I've never bothered even to open. Or maybe Mods deleted them before I even saw them? But any like that which I may see I assure you I'll be reporting as quick as greased lightning!:mad::mad::mad: And I hope and trust all others will do the same.

    But if these posts even amount to 1% I'd be very surprised. And I'd suspect many of that those which are are from trolls posing as new members who ought to be being picked up by the Mods anyway.

    But yes: certainly need to be vigilant against THEM! All power to your elbow:strong: therein!:):love::):):)
     
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    Indeed. I wish there was a way to prevent this all around the Internet. I've been on several sites where almost all (perhaps even all) of the "women" are men. It's annoying af.
     
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