Ball Trapped Devices: Either dark red or pull out

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    I have tried a couple of ball trap devices. Over time I had devices with different cage lengths and ring sizes. The ring sizes are from 40 mm to 50 mm. And there seem to be only to outcomes:

    • I can pull out. I have not tried whether I can push it back in, but that pretty much spoils the experience. (45 mm, 50mm)
    • The base ring is so tight that the ball sac turns into a dark red even without the cage on. I am not sure whether that is intended, but it sure does not look healthy. Also the penis becomes very hard, the blood vessels extremely pronounced and the color also darker. I doubt that this is good.

    With either of the ring sizes, erections will just drag the device downward, pulling on the balls. This is neither comfortable, nor does I have the feeling that my balls really like this.

    I had a cheap Chinese full belt which had a compartment for the balls, similar to the “My-Steel Untouchable Premium” or (in spirit) similar to the Latowski. This was rather pleasant to wear, except that the lock did not accept the key any more while I was wearing it. Therefore I don't have that one any more.

    How do you guys do it with the ball trap devices? Are there bodies that just are not compatible with them?
     
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    Barring a piercing, or some very elaborate tetherspout dohicky, you will always be able to pull out.

    It’s like an octopus tentacle, you just can’t use its mass as an impediment. It’s too flexible, and was designed to shrink and grow.

    I suggest you get a device that is comfortable, that is good enough fitting that you can wear it and it doesn’t slip down...and quit pulling out of it lol.
     
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    My experience is similar. I am a grower.
    The A-Ring diameter is either too narrow or too lose. And even if it is too narrow, even when the balls turn dark blue, I can pull out my "tentacle" and put it back in again with no bigger trouble. Steel devices always slip down and pull the sack. Plastic or silicone devices are lightweight but not really durable.
    My conclusion is that ball traps (any kind of) are only designed to keep the device where it is cause they dont allow the balls to slip through. What kind of material you choose is more owed to your personal preference than to the safety.
    For any anti pull out solution you have to secure the penis seperatly by Piercing or any (DIY?) solution fitting exactly to your anatomic conditions.

    Thats correct. Ball traps do things like that. That may be their criminal intent? :eek:
    But if you keep out of mischief and your mind stays chaste - which is the basically reason for wearing such devices - you will not have this problem anymore.
     
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    Try a smaller cage that does not allow you to grow at all. It has often been said here that the most comfortable devices are those with small cages.

    I started with a CB6000 type device which I found uncomfortable after only a few hours, but I now have a metal device with a tiny cage that I can wear for extended periods without problem. Also with a smaller cage there is less room for you to escape.
     
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    You all keep saying you can get out of your cages. How in the hell can you do it? I can't, I have tried several times and its impossible. I wear The vice and the vice part of the cage dosent allow the penis free of the cage. The skin basically gets attached to it becoming like part of the vice. Making it impossible to pull out unless you want to tear your skin off your penis. I also wear a holy trainer and havent been able to escape it. Maybe because the gap between the ring and cage is so narrow is why I cant get it off. Its only 8mm.
    I know why try to escape? If I feel that escape is possible then I dont feel like Im locked up, that I dont have control. I originally locked myself up and gave my wife the keys because of my infidelity to her. Well since that day I have been locked up except for 3 days because I had to heal. Then she locked me back up and hasnt even though about unlocking me. I have asked but she just smiles and says no. She told me to get use to it. That was Nov 15th 2017. So how do ya escape it?
    Honesty when I first locked this on myself, I thought she would keep me this way for a couple of days then let me out. So far Im wrong. Its almost been a month now. I am starting to get use to it being there but it would be nice to know how to remove it if this starts getting old. If ya know what I mean
     
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    That's my experience with 5 different devices now.

    That chain looks very uncomfortable. Basically you have built yourself a CS-100 with that, just that you still have the tug on the balls during erections. Perhaps it would be worthwhile to by a CS-100 copy from AliExpress?

    That might be a selling point for some people, for me it is just a disadvantage.

    My fascination is that I want exactly get into mischief while being locked. I want to look at pornographic images while locked. For instance my girlfriend is away during the evening and I am tasked with finding a couple of images in my collection that correspond to some particular mood or scene. Then I have to show her when she is back. She might but on her leather cap and interrogate me for the reasons that a particular image arouses me.

    For instance there was this one image where a woman wore pink boots and corset and a black skirt and bolero. I find it really nice, and though I do not like pink really, this particular image got me. And then my girlfriend chaffed me with liking those pink boots. It was great.

    Indeed the smallest device that I have had is the most comfortable one. Just when I eventually had an erection in it, it looked like a rather unhealthy thing.

    The device is plastic, so you can always just break it. On the CB 6000, the lock is attached to a spacer pin. The spacer pin have an oval cross section, so they do not rotate. If you just twist the lock hard enough, it ought to break. Otherwise you can take a hand saw and cut it that way. The vice looks similar, so with a little general purpose saw you can get through if twisting the lock does not do it.

    It sounds like you have some serious trouble in your relationship. After cheating your wife gave you a second chance with the “probation” of the chastity device. To me this shows a lack of trust from her side (understandably), but also unwillingness to trust again. Perhaps it would be better to have a conversation about trust and that you regret what you did and not do it again. Then either continue with trust and without the device, or just accept that there will not be trust ever again in the relationship.

    So just escaping the device without being notices does not really achieve much, I'd think. But then I am somebody who does not explicitly think about fidelity when it comes to chastity devices because in my relationship I find it unthinkable to cheat, because I am just happy with her.

    But enough unsolicited advice, this is how I escape:

    When the balls are warm, they tend to get looser. Then I can pull down the device a bit, so the root of the penis is already free. Now I pull the device downward between the legs, rotating it effectively. This will bend my penis at the root. I get one finger under the penis and above the balls, near the body. Then usually I can just pull out the penis from the device because nothing (piercing, tether sprout) keeps it in there. The penis needs to be bend, but since it is so flexible, this is not a problem.

    The balls will still be trapped, I do not think that there is a way to get them out without destroying the device. After masturbation one would have to get the penis back into the cage. I have not done that part because just being able to escape has ruined it for me. But I imagine that it is possible because when the device is not assembled, I can get the penis through the base ring and also into the cage. Especially after orgasm, it is so flaccid that with enough silicon based lube it should be possible to get it back in.

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    I once had a CS-100 knockoff, it was really great. It seemed sufficiently secure and was comfortable to wear. The quality was just lacking, so the ball stirrup fell out after some time. Also I was able to shake it and stimulate me, so perhaps the tube was a little bit too long.

    On my current wish list is either a My-Steel belt or the Latowski belt. Those should be fine from a security point of view.
     
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    I like your statement about criminal Intent. Most of us are Locked up by our Wife's or Mistresses because of a Masturbation habit so it is a sort of punishment. When we try and get an erection we should have some discomfort, it's part of our punishment. Even after being locked for years I still have discomfort and pinching it reminds me of who is in control
     
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    The best way to remove any cage is by being Very Very Nice to your Keyholder
     
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    Invest some time in finding the right fit and secure by using a PA.
    Chain through the PA ring out the end and to your lock is one way.
    An internal wire (thin rod) bent appropriately can be worn internally theough PA ring and onto the guide rings
    both effective and the look of both has appeal for different reasons.
    https://www.chastitymansion.com/forums/index.php?members/filltee.21313/
     
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    When I say I cheated on my wife, Im talking about my habitual masturbation. To me thats cheating. I would NEVER cheat with another woman. Anyone male or female that cheats on thier spouse with another person are rat crap to me
     
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    I agree. Personally I know that I cant get out. My testicles are too wide to get thru the 8mm gap. I really dont mind it that much, I just couldn't believe that people could escape from them without cutting locks or breaking them. The holy trainer Im wearing now has the magic locking system on it, there isnt anyway to tamper with that one. Also if you can slip out you might need a smaller ring with a narrower gap.
     
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    I've never been able to slip out of a ball-trap device under any circumstances I can't imagine that anyone could unless they had an extremely too large a Base Ring.
    As usual I am of course open to the possibility I may be wrong or may have misunderstood something.....

    Sorry but I just can't see how you can simply slip your testicles out of a reasonably well fitted trapped ball device, unless you can squeeze them nearly flat without discomfort.

    I would welcome the opportunity to see this happen in a video until then no disrespect intended but I remain very sceptical.
     
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    One of my collection of devices is the bird lock. I love the name BirdLock but since it's very soft when I was in the shower all soaped up and very warm I could remove it and get it back on without unlocking it. Looking at me while wearing it you wouldn't believe that this would be possible. It wasn't easy but it could be done. With most ball trap devices pulling out the back is possible unless you have a PA. Chastity and being Locked has to be more than just wearing a device it also has to be a state of your mind. If your mind is committed to chastity and being submissive and serving your Mistress the device on your cock can be partly a symbol of your submission, like a wedding ring.
     
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    Do you recommend getting a PA. IS IT PAINFUL
     
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    Cute dog doczilla. Do tell about the "infidelity". And I would love to see pics of the inescapable Vice in place. X
     
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    I'm NOT recommending that you get a PA. Unless you want to. What I am saying is that chastity is more in your head than between your legs.
     
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    Thanks his name is Stormie. As far as my infidelity goes I have what I would call an obsession with masturbating. I have no control over it what so ever. I have a wonderful and loving wife but she had no idea I was doing this. It is so bad that I would rather do that then make love to her. It makes no sense to me and is very frustrating. Every time I did it I felt so freaking guilty, I felt like I was cheating on her.
    It got to the point that I went on line to find ways to stop. About everything lead to some form of chastity. I read a lot about it and decided that I needed to at least try it. Well I ordered "The Vice" off line, when it came in the mail I had to figure out how it worked. Finally figured out how to put it on, locked it and put the keys in my pocket.
    Now I had to figure out how to tell my wife what had been going on and the solution to my problem.
    After dinner that night we went out on the back porch to smoke a cigarette. I was nervous as hell actually scared. I took the keys from my pocket and handed them over to her. She asked me what they were for and I told her they were hers to do with as she pleased. Then I confessed everything to her about what I had been doing. The look of hurt in her eyes was killing me. She asked if it was her fault, because she felt like she wasn't pretty enough. I told her it was absolutely not her fault that it was mine. That I had a problem and didn't know how to stop. That's when I told her about the solution and that's what the keys were for. I showed her the chastity cage and told her she had the keys in her hands.
    At this time I could tell she was getting angry with me. She started asking alll the questions that I had no answers for.
    What surprised me after all that was, she took the keys put them in her pocket and said "You better get use to that thing". Got up and went inside. I totally deserve everything I get. That was Nov 15th 2017 almost a month now. She took it off me for 3 days to heal because I was getting sore. Then she locked it back up. That's how it's been ever since. It's stopped the masturbating but I'm horny as ever. She has taken advantage of that and had me bring her to orgasm on 2 different times over the past month but she kept me locked up.
    She has been reading up on male chastity and seems to be enjoying her new found power. I have asked to be unlocked once her reply was absolutely not.
    I am getting use to it and starting to like it. I really don't have a choice right now, but maybe later on I will.
    I have a lot to make up to her. Being locked up has actually made me more attentive to her needs and desires. I'm actually more concerned with her happiness then my own. However long it takes to earn her trust back is how long I'm willing to remain locked.
    If I'm going to be honest with her and myself, IF it were removed I would probably do it again and that's something I don't want.
    That's pretty much how I was put into chastity. Self locked but now forced.
     
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    I have never found ball trap devices comfortable. After a few hours, no matter the ring size, my scrotum always starts hurting. right now doing the honor system, I'm just going to be resigned to never wearing a device.
     
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