Pavlok = low cost Dreamlover?

This is a very low cost one that works with a app through bluetooth, however the shock is QUITE high on anything above a 3. Be very careful! The vibrations are pretty good and when positioned right I am told it can be quite nice. The looks on his face confirm it. Attached to any device it makes for a very attentive and well behaved beloved. Works really well dispite the reviews. 38 bucks is way cheaper than pavlock. You have to be in blue tooth range. You plug it into a cord to recharge it. Charge lasts a long time, over a day if used often, longer if you don't vibrate as much, but I love the vibrate button. Love to see the smile. Go to Amazon and search for it.
Description
The Petrainer PET918 e-collar allows you to train your dog from your smartphone. Say goodbye to bulky or visible transmitters. Train your dog with no one knowing you're utilizing a stimulation collar. This dog training collar utilizes Bluetooth technology that allows you to control up to two dogs simultaneously. With it's easy to use interface, this multi-functional dog training device has everything a common household pet owner needs, such as bark control, remote training and electric fence technology, while keeping it all on a hardware that's well known by the owner.

Features:
1. Collar Size: Able to fit small, medium and large dogs. 15 lbs or Larger. TPU Collar Size from 7 to 26 inches long.
2. Suitable Device: iPhone 4s/5/5s/6 (download "i.pets" in apple store)
3. Battery Type: Rechargeable Lithium Batteries
4. Water Capabilities: Waterproof Collar Receiver
5. Static/Vibration Options: 99 Levels of Vibration and Static Stimulation Button
6. Sensitivity: 9 Levels of Sensitivity for Anti Bark Mode
7. Bluetooth 4.0 Technology Training Collar controlled by IPhone
8. Multi-functional Dog Training Device: Training Collar, Anti Bark Collar, Anti Lost and Electronic Fence
9. 6 Different Warning Tones for Anti-lost & Fence Mode
10. Adjustable distance for Anti-lost and Electronic Fence Modes

Package:
- 1 x Receiver Collar
- 1 x User Manual
About this item
Features

• Bluetooth 4.0 technology training collar controlled by iphone4S/5/5S/6 (download "i.pets" in apple store)
• Rechargeable and waterproof receiver collar
• with anti-lost and electronic fence function, your dog never get lost
• 0-99 levels of static, vibration function for training your dog
• 0-9 levels of sensitivity for anti bark mode, stop dog barking nuisance

Product Information
Product Dimensions 5.9 x 4 x 2.4 inches
Item Weight 0.3 ounces
Shipping Weight 0.3 ounces
Manufacturer Ipets
ASIN B00LVUPFUS
Manufacturer reference PET918
Custo komer Reviews 2 out of 5 stars 3Reviews
Best Sellers Rank 120227
Date first available at Amazon.com July 17, 2014

 

The pavlock has many connection issues, from the many reviews I've seen, all complain about the very unreliable bluetooth connection. I also use the dog trainer listed above, that works well.

 

Which one do you use?

 

So you are using the petrainer correct? Does it fit well under clothes?

 

I'msure it could be hidden under clothing quite easily, but mine is encased in a heavy stainless steel collar, not easy to hide that way.

Neosteel just came out with a variety of ways to attach these types of trainers, including a couple different waist bands, a collar, and even a scrotal cuff so it can be hidden out in public.

 

If you mount it correctly you can see it under clothes at all

 

I ordered it the other day so hopefully it shows up today. I'll let you know how it goes

 

Digging around the web, the actual "device" portion looks huge (70mm x 40mm, x 30mm see image attached), many many times the size of a pavlok. Seemingly too large to be inconspicuous/practical/comfortable if one tried some sort of stealth mount below the belt.

More digging into decompiled Android "control" app source code (for the i.pets918) reveals it is using Bluetooth low energy to connect and it uses standard Bluetooth GATT to control the device. One could theoretically code up a standalone streamlined app to control it instead of the kludgey pet app interface (like a Apple watch app, a MSFT band app, a Pebble app etc). There would be some measure of reverse engineering still. So its certainly not as intuitive as the API exposed by the Pavlok.

 

With the shell taken off he applied a sugru case. This made it smaller. The screws on it are made so you actually have to take it off to disconnect the unit. You can still charge it. Some of the original plastic case is still on it, but not much. It works well but if the shock is turned above level four it could deliver a injurious shock. The vibration is good. The app really has a problem in that the shock and vibrate are too close together. I wish the app could be re written. Another thing I wish the app could do is send the signal through the Internet to the device at home. Since we have a semi long distance relationship it would be nice to be able to reach out and touch someone. I know they do it with the very expensive dream lover 2000 gizmo. It works by sending the signal from a android device, through the Internet to another android device and then to the actual vibration-shock device. Is it possible to take the Bluetooth app and send the signal through the Internet to the Bluetooth app on another phone and then to the device.

 

The other problem with the app is the shock and vibrate share one slider. The vibrator part needs to be pretty high to really work, however the shock should really not go above 4. So you have to use the slider to go up and down before using it and if you press the wrong button with the slider too high you can really hurt someone. The buttons for shock and vibrate are close together. It can be used but you need to be careful.

 

Any photos of the setup/mount/etc...minus any fleshy appendage?

 

I agree with you 100 percent that the slider should be separate. I have noticed that sometimes the shock isn't that strong & other times it is. We are at four now and its tolerable for the most part but every so often its stronger. Jen shocked me at level 10 (accidentally) and that will bring you to your knees real quick.

 

I can get a picture and post it. Also I wonder how an app could be made to make the sliders separate. I found a blue tooth app that you could sort of write yourself with a program where you sort of clicked boxes and such. I googled control any Bluetooth device.