Ways to find out if cock pulled out from the ball trap device?

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    Hi people,

    I'm usually a very creative person but in this case I would like to hear your thoughts on ways how could a keyholder detect that the chaste pulled his cock out of his chastity device?

    I have a CB6000, some random metal CD ordered from ebay and am currently locked in the Holy Trainer. Out of those 3, HT is definitely the most comfortable. I also have a DreamLover 2000 device connected to it.

    However, I'm able to escape out of all of them. Only the cock of course. Balls are firmly trapped and are not going anywhere until unlocked.

    I tried lots of things trying to physically prevent the cock being pulled out but with no effect.

    As I'm lucky enough to have a girlfriend who is also my Mistress and a keyholder, is there a way for her to know when I've been naughty and played with myself without her permission?

    The only thing I can think of that she writes a letter or whatever using a waterproof lipstick at the base of the cock. If I tried to pull the cock out I'd have to grab it and pull it out from the base and therefore the lipstick would get smeared. And if so I'd get 200 strokes of the cane so that I'd never try that shit again.

    Any other suggestions?
     
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    The only solution I can think of is to use surgical tape to attach a hair or something between your shaft and the cage, signed so you can't replace it. It'd be flimsy and more difficult to keep it clean though.

    The other alternative is to use some kind of spiked device or urethral insert to make it harder to re-insert.
     
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    The spikes idea has crossed my mind but I don't think it is possible to attach to the HT.

    I really like the surgical tape idea, but wouldn't it be possible for me to detach and reattach it at any time?
     
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    If your keyholder signed it it might be possible to do so in such a way to tell if you had done so.
     
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    My question is "Why?" If all you want is to be able to get away with cheating on a promise made then Why bother? If you have given your word to honor the desires of your Mistress, Keyholder, whatever you call her, and you have to lock for a way make it impossible you have already lost.

    Just my .02 worth...
     
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    Your best option would be a PA piercing and a metal cage like the Mature Metal Jailbird or similar. Then use a second padlock through the tip of the cage and the piercing to prevent pullout. I'd go this route but the wife isn't interested in the piercing and is only half interested in chastity play.
     
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    @Caged Wolf: I hear what you're saying, but you're not hearing me. If I already bought a $150 device I expect to get what I paid for. And since not one of the ball trap devices can deliver that, I need to find a way myself.
    I'd probably never cheat my way out of chastity but still I want to be absolutely sure.
    Why even bother buying devices. There is nothing stopping me from not playing with myself without using a device. Right?

    @YourWifesToy: The problem is that I cannot use a metal device becuase the current (the pulse) from the DL2000 could not be delivered and therefore I'd waste a $1000.
    And to be honest, I'm not to eager to get my penis pierced :)
     
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    I find that - despite the fact that I hold the keys myself - whilst I'm in the cage I'm not tempted to play with myself, whereas if I take it off I have trouble keeping my hands away from where they shouldn't go >_>

    It's also been said that the best chastity device is the one between your ears.

    Though there are people that prefer to know they can't escape even if they wanted to; in that case, piercings and belts are the only way to go (and even then it's possible to pick the lock, etc.).
     
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    The best way my Owner found to determine whether or not i attempted to pull out to relieve frustration was to ask me and look into my eyes while i answered. i never developed the ability to lie in that kind of a situation.

    i am quite impressed by the security of the PA Piercing methods. That kind of security is as near to complete as one could possibly imagine. But then there is the penalty for lying that is removed from the equation. One could amuse one's self all day with weighing those differences…
     
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    The surgical tape thing is more robust than you'd think. However I don't bother with it.
     
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    Spankme,
    Sorry if i misunderstood the reason behind your question. That being said, I hope you find something that works for you as proof and security witness.

    Hijk,
    I am one of the ones who have been able to learn to keep my hands off. I made a promise to my Mistress, and have no intention of braking that promise.
     
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    Actually, I've seen MatureMetal, Steelworxx and Steelwerks Extreme make DreamLover-compatible cages; I blieve it's about having some rubber seals in between different parts of the cage.
     
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    Here is something to try. It might work for you and is not expensive.

    Try tying a very thin string or thread around your shaft, just behind the head. Secure the other end to the inside of the cage such that you cannot untie it, or have the string extend outside the cage and then held under a wax seal. The wax seal should the kind that has a pattern pressed into it before it cools. If you use the wax seal idea, your GF could use a charm or ring to press into it, such that you would not be able to easily duplicate the pattern. Type "wax seal" into Amazon's search function for more ideas. You may want to use a special color of string also.

    If you do this correctly, you will not be able to pull out without breaking or cutting the string (or breaking the wax seal).
     
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    In the initial months of my chastity, my KH wife made me try every trick on earth to escape
    She has ensured that it's impossible for me to escape from my cage
     
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    I have tried that, it is not a bad idea.
    However, it is not easy to get it tight enough to prevent escape, but not to tight so as to not hurt the frenum which is very sensitive... Also, the string needs to be thick enough, and if you get urine on it, it starts to stink.

    What I would personally try:
    Get the key holder to buy wax of a very fancy color (hard to find)
    Then she can pour some on top of the shaft, between the ring and the cage.
    She can then add a seal for more security, but it wont necessarily be easy, depending on the set up.
    Good luck pulling out without washing out the wax...
     
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    My technical problem is that whenever I think of trying to pull out my cock
    and so become naked, I get an erection
    I just can't stay flaccid when naked
    So I could never attempt this!
     
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    Mistresses seem to know when you been naughty anyways. i said id done all the ironing once and She had a look in the cuboard and knew right way i hadn't. :(
     
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    I like your wax idea as well.

    But as to the tightness of the string around the cock. It need not be tight as long as one cannot get it back on after pulling the shaft out of the device. Any sort of tube device will likely make getting the loop back on the cock impossible.
     
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    Eh, doesn't need to be a Mistress for that: my parents always claim my ironing is insufficient every time I visit them! (I just think they're too picky :p)
     
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