Hi, I'm a new (and rather nervous) keyholder, or at least, on the brink of becoming one I think. I'm hoping that we'll progress from just using the cage for an hour or two of play every now and then, to slightly longer periods - possibly overnight or more. I'm about to draw up some rules for us and I hope you don't mind me asking this silly question. I'd rather he didn't masturbate, especially at night. Other than with a vibrator (I can put it out of the way) or anal/prostate (not his thing), will it be possible for him to make himself come, for example, by tugging on the cage or anything? Sal.
My wife has been away since Saturday. Last night I was very desperate. In my case, the answer is very clearly "no." There was no way I could get any meaningful stimulation. Think it depends on the man and the cage. Also, my wife does allow for prostate massage. I really appreciate that. I don't orgasm, but it does relive pressure. I know it's isn't his thing, but if he becomes really physically uncomfortable (more than just being horny) you might suggest something small and subtle (gloved finger or small massager). After a couple of days I get really sore without this, and ice only helped so much. It can be maintenance, and not some kind of kink. Sorry for the soap box.
Thank you for the quick reply! That's really helpful. I'm hoping other people have the same reaction as you - it'll make life a lot easier! Sal.
Yes, I am confident that any man with a normal sex drive will eventually get so horny that they will jiggle the cage to experience an orgasm of sorts. It's not much fun but it's possible. I powerfully dislike it, it's just discomfort for me. My KH has done it accidentally a couple of times when we have fooled around. By all mean hide the vibe, and the washing machine, and power tools...but eventually a bumpy road will do it haha, maybe just kegels. And unless the cage is attached to a piercing, or a full belt, he will be able to pull out and jerk off before slipping back into the cage. A man doesn't need to ejaculate so no need for "maintenance milkings" or any of that fantasy nonsense. If you both enjoy then do it, but it's certainly not needed. His body will naturally purge when it needs to. Stopping his masturbation and orgasm requires both you on board and willing. He's a man, he will no doubt be capable of using tools.
@JaySaysYes Did an excellent post above, so I do not have much to add beyond “seconding” it. I never got from your prior questions that you were looking for hard line extreme denial. I think it’s good for you to know that the very fact that it is ON, and you want it there and have the key will almost certainly cause him to stop and think about his actions and he’ll likely stop at that point. A determined male in almost ANY device will manage an orgasm if he is creative enough. But the power of a chastity device is more in the brain than the steel anyway, so don’t discount that YOUR desire to have him locked and his willingness to accept that will achieve your goal. It’ll shift from what CAN he do to what WILL he do.
Yes I can. However it is all about getting the mindset of not wanting to cheat. Like I said before it's addictive. He just doesn't know how much he will long for a longer lock up when he comes to love the feeling of being so horny but not allowed to come. It is better than anything he can yet imagine. Honestly, get him on here and get him to PM me. I didn't know jack two years ago. Didn't know how much I needed this year's ago
With a vibrator on the cage, yes I can cum. Otherwise, just by shaking it, no way. But, everyone is different. I’m in my 50’s, maybe as a younger man it would have been different.
Good point, and I should have noted that as well. I made myself orgasm in my cage once and I didn’t like the after effects. Not very physically satisfying, messy, and then I got that post orgasm drop but now mixed with guilt. Lesson learned! Never repeated.
As a husband that loves to be locked up, controlled and denied, I also struggle with controlling my desire to orgasm. Over the years I have found ways to have that orgasm without the wife knowing. Slipping out of the cage (then the piercing came) , vibrator and dildos ( then those became locked up too), and finally having one caged and fully dressed while watching porn (not sure if I can do that easily again). Everytime it left me feeling embarrassed and ashamed. But I guess if a guy really wants to have an orgasm, he'll find a way. Giving control to the keyholder, really is more than handing over the keys, it's mental too.
Maybe it's a personal thing, but I can't seem to orgasm without an erection, and I can't get an erection in the cage. Attempted erections either subside or get painful... and then subside. I don't have access to a vibrator, so not sure if that would work without me getting hard. As for pulling out I'm too nervous to try, I'm worried I couldn't get back in without everything being unlocked, then there would be a lot of explaining to do. I'm also pretty sure my Goddess would notice the mood swing if I was suddenly magically sated
I'm very much a grower A flaccid fit is 2 inches, erect is 7 inches plus more girth. Generally a full cover tube stops attempted erections and it doesn't hurt, but if the little guy is really persistent there's no where to go and that can start to hurt, then he gives up.
Good post, all of the same here. Have tried "jerking" the cage for orgasm, but not going to happen. A very powerful vibrator always gets it done though ; ) so the vibes are locked away form me as well. i consider a caged vibe orgasm a treat from my Queen as it is only very occasional and She seems to enjoy making Her bitch ejaculate whilst keeping his little penis respectful of Her (not erect). She says i "may do as i please with my ass, but the penis and testicles were surrendered to me and I will never get them back" . It may be possible as time passes, that he will find a renewed interest in his prostate/butt play as it may become the only stimulation available between your allowances? Good luck on this journey. i am sure you will find what is proper for situation : )
I have never done that before.. while i miss my full 5.5” erection and ejaculation, i cant imagine to be able to cum when confined in a 1.75” cage.. i have been a grower all the while.. without full/partial erection.. how could ejaculation be possible..? Ok, many said yes, it could.. by shaking the cage vigorously.. but i think there will be a tear on the scrotum before anything happen like any pre-cum oozing out… and no, i dont have a vibrator
With a vibe i can come in 30 seconds if im worked up enough, otherwise shaking the cage feeks nice for a miniute but then i realuse i have a urethral insert and that puts a real downer on things. I have on one occasion just fired my load everywhere, i was licked for about 2 weeks, we were doing .... Erm... Activities most nights. Thus particular night i went down on the mrs whilst wearing a locking buttplug and electric nipple clamps... I was doing my thing and then i just had an orgasm... I think anyone whos mentally stimulated and physically stimulated (not necessarily penis stimulation) can just orgasm. I previously thought that was bullshit but now ive experienced it im changing sides... God knows itd take me a while to do it again or maybe i cant as i wasnt exoecting it at all. So in short my opinion is with a vibe possible in seconds without a vibe it is possible but may take a while and depend on how worked up he is
cuming while caged is possible, although need to get permission from her and she sometime manage some stimulation to my nipples as encouragement. Can use vibrator, estim using Tens unit and by pulling fore and back with the cage
Lots going on in your post and you've had lots of good replies already. Firstly there's a huge difference between a full-blown orgasm and mere ejaculation. As a 'mature' man I can ejaculate in my cage but certainly not orgasm - hell sometimes just slight pressure on my prostate will do the trick with absolutely no other stimlulation. But is it an orgasm ? No. And it just leaves me feeling horny, frustrated and disappointed. Secondly there is the whole question of the 'honour' system. In some sense he has to be in the cage because he wanted to be: at least he did when you locked him up for the first time ! So even the physical handing over of control is a consensual thing. Does he really understand how disappointed you would be if he 'cheated' and potentially what he is losing ? And how lucky he is and how great the, long-term, rewards are ? Some men operate entirely on the honour system: so are not locked at all; and refrain simply because they are asked / instructed to do so. Plenty of men wear their cages over night, some, a few, permanently. So that should not be an issue. You could try having his hands cuffed and attached, by a short chain, to his collar. That would remove the temptation for him to masturbate overnight. Although it's probably not that comfortable in terms of trying to get to sleep. I'm wearing y Cherrykeeper as I write. They're relatively cheap, easy to customise, and, for me, very comfortable. I don't want to take it off and actually doubt that I could. I may be able to 'pull-out' but I'm sure I'd never be able to get it back in !
Sorry I screwed up again. I'm blaming it on Fat Fingers. I can orgasm with difficulty while caged. But agree with the others that it's not as pleasurable and the post orgasm let down is worse than when having a "normal " orgasm. Chastity is a commitment by both parties, and you have to honor your KH. I'm my own KH so if I cheat it's on myself. I'm currently working on a 6 month denial, 139 days into it. With only one other caged orgasm early this year. Goal is only caged orgasms this year and less every upcoming year. As for having the tools. I was an Auto Mechanic for 40+ years. Some of the tools are looking really friendly as of late.
Happened to me the other night. Playing with the wife and she had me hump her leg while caged in my cherrykeeper. (she enjoys my frustration) The sensation was odd it just felt like my semen was slowly making its way out, it didn't shoot out but it also didn't satisfy me in any way. She of course was satisfied moments before.
I can cum just by shaking th cage if I am horny enough. Dosent feel anything like a real orgasm but it still an orgasm. In an ideal scenario my wife would want lock me up in a full belt, but those are not really practical for us. As for me, I would rather have a nightfall than a caged orgasm.