Covid-19 and Life

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    When ever someone presents you with some facts before you consider the credibility of those facts
    first ask them

    Who told you that... was it... scientists

    ....or the government or ...............was it government paid scientists?

    if it was any of those you would be wise to consider them very carefully instead of blindly accepting them.

    Looking for truth ... follow the money

    Scientists have said using tobacco products was safe governments know the dangers of alcohol but won't ban it, the same with organised gambling but they are happy to accept the revenue from both.
    Yes the national lottery is gambling.
    70% of the price of a bottle of Scotch in the UK is tax.

    Also look at who owns what follow the links . who is related to who .. by marriage or through finance

    Don't look at faceache or twatter or most forms of social media to learn anything resembling the truth they are closely monitored and stuff gets taken down if it does not toe the line.

    Look for evidence for yourself and check it
     
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    Stupidity and gullibility doesn't discriminate. Yes people believe that the election was stolen, but people on the other side also believe that showing an ID in order to vote is suppression. I had to show an ID to check in to a hotel last week, and at the customer service desk at a grocery store for something but it is a violation of my rights that I have to prove who I am in order to choose the government officials which would dictate every aspect of my life in this country? Maybe people who yell about suppression and blindly following rules need to take a three day weekend trip to North Korea to gain a bit of perspective.
     
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    That is great. The intentions of the people working on the vaccines and administering them are with the best of intentions given the circumstances we are in but we shouldn't shame and label people who are not comfortable receiving a vaccine that skipped through vetting processes. There is a reason why they make you sit in a room and wait after getting the vaccine, they don't have enough data on how people will react to it. On the flip side, don't be the asshole who yells at people working in a business which requires a mask or prefers you wear a mask for their safety. Wearing a mask and keeping a reasonable distance until vaccines were thoroughly tested instead of shutting the world down should have been the reasonable compromise during all of this. It would have prevented this debate all together.
     
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    It is a good term for what has been going on all over the world and can be applied to both hysterical overreaction factions as well as science denying election doubting Q Klutz Klan members.
     
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    I didn’t have to wait after I got mine. I mean, I had to wait a month between doses but didn’t have to wait after to see if I had a reaction. It was quick and I had no physical or physiological reaction to either shot.
     
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    #106 scottishsubby, May 31, 2021
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    If you want to believe that nonsense be my guest.

    While you're at it, haggis is a small furry animal with different length legs so it can run roind mountains, fairies are real, mermaids exist, there is a monster in loch ness, the sasquatch steals children and the moon's made of green cheese.

    Honest to god, I really wonder sometimes if we did the right thing building the internet....some of humanity is clearly not ready for it.

    (Sorry missed the quote - that's aimed at the conspiracy theorists!)
     
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    That is flat out wrong.

    The reason for the waiting period is to watch for signs of anaphalaxis, a relatively common allergic reaction which can be triggered by many things (including shellfish, wasp stings, bee stings, peanuts & eggs among lots of others). It can be life threatening and will almost always manifiest within 15 minutes of exposure to the trigger.

    It is nothing to do with this specific vaccine, it's a general safety precaution the first time anyone is injected with any drug or vaccine (including the annual flu shot).
     
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    regarding showing ID, yes a private business might require one to utilize their services, and a state might require in certain age-restricted areas but we don’t have a constitutionally protected right to fly on a plane, stay at a hotel, or buy booze or a pack of smokes. ID verification is done when someone registers to vote. We don’t need to show our papers here to exercise our constitutional rights. There are no other rights where ID is required. The 2nd Amendment is not one either. You have a constitutionally protected right to bear arms but not to buy arms. You’ll need to show ID when buying them but once they’re in your hands that’s it - no ID needed.
     
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    Big lies? Oooohhhh, like the "vaccinated" should still wear masks? "Just to be extra safe."

    I've said all along, we will ALL find out soon enough.

    Kind of hard to explain the dead and dying vaccinated people along the way, though. But I'll leave that up to you smart ones.
     
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    #110 Eveanne, May 31, 2021
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    Are you seriously posting those screenshots in support of your claim or are you doing it as some type of Jonathan Swift-esque satirical performance art? There is not a single factual claim in either of those. Glaxo doesn’t own the lab or Pfizer. Gates and Fauci were not roommates and George soros has nothing to do with any of this. All of this is publicly available info and easily fact checked. The bottom line, regarding the vaccine or the election, is that the burden of proof lies with those making the extraordinary claim. Otherwise we could claim any absurd idea and say you can’t prove me wrong. Rudy Giuliani is actually Bat Boy’s father who grew up to be none other than Rick Scott. You cannot prove the former Florida governor ISNT actually Bat Boy.
     
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    The biggest difference between the two elections is that Hillary Clinton conceded the next day. She never challenged the results nor did she have a propaganda arm of her party maintaining and perpetuating the lie that the election was stolen. The fact is the republicans have won the popular vote only once in the last 32 years. They even issued a statement warning about "delegitimatizing the very system that led Donald Trump to victory in 2016, and that could provide the only path to victory in 2024.” Despite that, she put the good of the nation above her own self interest or that of her party and bowed out with dignity. She also did not instigate an armed insurrection against the government. That is something Trump and the GOP are incapable of displaying. I mean, there is even one GOP clown that is now claiming that it looked like a normal tourist visit to the capital on Jan 6 despite there being several photographs of him barricading the doors with capital police.
     
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    The funny thing you don't realise that it's people like you that turn swing voters into trump supporters.

    If you stopped being arseholes people wouldn't swing the other way.

    The same with the Labour party in the UK. Your own worst enemies.
     
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    For those who are just now considering the lab hypothesis to be legitimate...

    Now would be a good time to re-examine your beliefs about:

    PCR testing
    Asymptomatic transmission
    Droplet transmission
    Ivermectin
    Mask efficacy
    School closings
    Lockdowns

    I predict all of those "orthodox" views (which were unorthodox until 2020) are going to come unstuck over the next year or two.
     
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    I worked on a covid unit during the pandemic and vaccine administration. The instructions for post injection monitoring were very specific and we did monitor people for a whole variety of reactions because in the words of the person giving the vaccine, "We have no idea what is in these shots."
     
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    My grandfather was on the registered voting list for years after he had died. During one of the election cycles I went in and when they asked what who I was, I used his name instead of mine for that year and they gave me his ballot.
     
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    You mock but I would love to see if you have the strength to reject the seductive power of a mermaid looking to lure you to Davy Jones locker.
     
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    I would add hydroxychloroquin and vitamin D and Zinc to the list of things to consider.
     
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    The PCR test explained:

    Do you got Covid? No
    Do you got Covid? No
    Do you got Covild? No

    Repeat as many times until you get

    Do you got Covid? Yes.

    Dang! This is an epidemic! Lock down the world.

    Bonus: Once vaccinated, lower the the number of repeats until you get an "efficacy" rate that suits your narrative.
     
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    In the UK we are doing an average of 900,000 covid tests a day, desperately trying to find something that isn't there.

    About 600,000 of them are PCR tests which cost £120 EACH. A criminal waste of money.

    But someone is getting very rich from it.


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    The rich get richer and sod the rest of us ,basically the whole thing is criminal.
     
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    I'm as suspicious of the PCR test as I am of the injections. Why on earth do you have to shove a stick so far up your sinus as to risk puncturing brain tissue to get a swab? You'd think that a disease so easily transmissible could be swabbed right off your clothing. (Masks, after all)

    While unconfirmed, I have seen a lot of videos showing live organic matter on the freshly opened "sterile" swabs.

    This autumn in the northern hemisphere is going to be quite interesting.
     
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    Let's not forget transmission by touching surfaces and objects, that has been proven to be almost impossible.

    The whole house of cards will fall one by one.
     
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    Actually we do.
     
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    And you trust pharmaceutical companies who have made countless errors and have been proved to have deliberately deceived people for profits many times, and have had to pay out billions when they have been caught.

    I used to.

    Not anymore.

    A couple of years ago I used my fetlife photos to raise over £5000 for cancer research. At the time a few people said things like "drug companies already have cures for cancer but they don't release them as it would affect their profits".

    I dismissed that as a ludicrous conspiracy theory.

    After the deceptions I have seen in the last year, I'm not so sure.
     
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    Speaking of cards falling one by one, it looks like Fauci just took a big hit today with the release of his e mails.

    Faucism
    Faucist

    "My vaccine won't work until everyone is fully vaccinated!"
     
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