If not pull-out-proof, are there any tamper-evident cages at least?

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    It seems if one wants a safe chastity device, i.e. making pull-out impossible, there's only few methods.

    • Piercings -> many/most people including me don't really want to get one
    • Urethral inserts -> difficult and complicated to insert, most people including me are scared
    • Painful inserts (e.g. those pull out preventing inserts for CB series and Holy Trainer, and The Vice) -> pull out still possible just painful (and in fact it is not even too painful if you're uncircumcised because you only hurt the foreskin), penis may just shrink and turtle out, uncomfortable for long-term wear and night time erections (skin tearing etc)
    • Retainer ring -> haven't tried it as the only device that has it is a Lori device for >$750, seems like the best option but you take a high risk spending so much money on something that might not be 100% safe in the end

    So I'm wondering, are there any devices that are at least tamper-evident? What I mean by that is that you maybe will be able to pull out, but you cant insert the penis again without first unlocking the whole thing, not even with the stocking method. So yes, you may be able to "cheat" but then you'll have to confess to your keyholder.

    Does this exist?
     
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    Wonderful question. I face the same issues, with only my word holding me back.
     
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    i have a lori 2A. its as good as you will get to a PA. can you pull out? yes. can you slide back in. hell no. with the ring being flexible, its not going to slide back over your penis. if you some how do manage to defeat the device, use a rubber oring as the ring and a ribber band as the tether to the cage. secure with the security screw where the PA lock normally goes. i can hardly get this on when the cage is off me. im a naughty little shit and even i have not been able to pull out and slide back in. its just not possible with the rubber oring as the locking ring.

    the lori costs a lot, but her cages are the innovative ones. didnt they bring out the first PA cages way back when?
     
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    Without a piercing nothing short of a full belt will ever be completely pullout-proof. Even some of the full belts aren't proof against a determined escape artist - it's extremely difficult to trap a penis completely!

    My advice would be to try a few cheap designs of belt & cage. Pull out of them and work out how you're able to do it. Get back in if you can. Once you know how you escape you'll know what to look for in a design that will thwart it.

    Behind Barz have a good reputation for being escape proof although I haven't any personal experience of them. Nor have I tried a Lori cage with ring - I personally can't see how it works, perhaps someone could explain it.

    Good luck!
     
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    Thank you this explanation. Assuming that sliding back in is not even possible with the stocking method, this basically seems to be a "tamper evident" design as I had in mind!
     
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    I would be extremely happy if there was some way for indicating if tampering and/or pullout had occurred.
     
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    I’m going to try a tetherspout and thinking of it as a non-permanent piercing.... will report back if/when it arrives :+1:

    I think a belt combined with a ball trap type cage should be escape proof. The cage can’t be pulled away at the top and also access is blocked. But there are issues with wearing a belt full time - I known I couldn’t but it’s great for a day or two :D
     
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    I use the one in ny profile picture. Could not imagine pulling it out but I suppose you could. What i don't understand is why would you more than likely the idea was yours to start with. Why cheat? If it is because your keyholder keeps you from orgasm is that not the idea to be there for there needs not yours. Hope you can explain this to me. Not trying to step on toes just trying to understand
     
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    Not sure about @sonhee, but for me, not being able to escape a chastity device heightens the feeling of submission. That you've given total control to someone else over your penis and with it, a large part of your sexual experience. It makes me feel that i have no options other than to obey. Now i'd obey anyway, more than likely, but the feeling is much stronger and might enable me to do things for my Domme i might not otherwise consider.
     
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    I’m with @MissyB with that...
    Using the honour system just wouldn’t work for me. In my eyes it’s akin to holding on to the head-board and pretending your in bondage :rolleyes:
    Or a cage I can cheat with is like those cheap, fully handcuffs compared with thick, padded leather straps with padlock hasps :eek:
     
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    I get your point, but with same logic, why wear a cage anyway and not just promise you won't masturbate?
     
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    Not my quote, but I sort of agree. Sometimes it seems a cage is more a psychological help than anything.
     
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    It is a totally different feeling when you absolutely know that the only way a cage is coming off is if your KH wants it off or you have to cut it off.

    I had a custom made cage from Lori that has a retaining ring AND a PA. They are expensive but you can make payment to her.
     
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    Yep, I want to be 100% completely, totally dependant on being unlocked by my wife :+1:
     
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    When you have been locked with no way of cheating, even a hand job makes for a mind blowing experience!
     
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    Besides a piercing (which I love but it took me 20 years to finally get) there is a simpler option...

    Someone here in 2014-2015 related their experience using surveyor's flagging tape as a security seal. They’d tie it around their shaft and then again to the cage.

    It made a tamperproof no-backsies solution. I just can’t find the post.
     
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    There really isn’t any inescapbile solution. The only difference is the amount of time and effort to get out of the device. I spent a couple of years trying to find a good non PA ball trap device that won’t let me out without the key. It doesn’t exist. When my wife agreed to be my KH she told me that if I cheat she will no longer participate. It’s a lifestyle I want badly enough to be honest and not cheat. The longest I have gone is 45 days. I don’t know what she has planned for me in the future but the decision is hers and I abide by it.

    The device serves as a reminder to me of my position and is enough of a speed bump to keep me from cheating and masturbating. When I finally am allowed to cum it is so mind blowing that it’s worth it.
     
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    In the end, the solution will be digital.
     
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    Ultimately the solution will be electrical/wireless. With existing technologies the chastity device could be made and could provide real time feedback to the KH. The additional benefit to wireless technologies is the KH would be able to send signals to the device as she pleases.

    The Dream Works device is close but too expensive

    Better living though technology - for the KH.
     
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    You mean Dreamlover? DreamWorks is an animation studio.
     
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    Thanks, Dreamlover it is
     
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    I'm experimenting with shortened urethral inserts. Short insertion does not carry the same risks as deeper insertion, and an insert that is unreachable when the cage is locked can't be reinserted after an escape, so it would be tamper evident. After three rounds of shortening a stainless steel catheter, I think I have the length right, but the polishing reduced the diameter to the point it leaks badly on the cages I'm interested in using it with. I have replacements on the way.
     
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    The other half of the equation is the lock. Most of the "magic locks" are absurdly easy to pick, just watch the Lock Picking Lawyer on YouTube where he uses part of a condom wrapper to open one. Manufacturers of padlocks small enough to hang from chastity device just aren't going to invest in making the lock difficult pick when they are so easily cut off.

    So to get tamper "evident" you need to use some kind of security seal, ideally one that meets an ISO or DOT standard.
     
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    Any tamper evident cage would be good enough for me. Then a numbered plastic tag lock would work well.
     
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