Long distance keyholder: what is the best method?

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    Does anyone have experience with bluetooth locks? Or anything else where the keyholder would have direct control over the lock?

    I'd like to avoid using emlalock, sending my physical keys away, or anything where i can access the keys myself.

    What do you think the best method for long distance chastity is?

    Thanks :)
     
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    I'd love to know too! A friend of mine wants to be my key holder, as well as being my forced fem instructor, and this would certainly help us out!
     
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    i created something for just this question. i put together caged.app with my keyholder in response to no elegant remote keyholding solution that i could find. It's built in node.js with a MongoDB backend and uses Password for user authentication. I had a ton of fun building it and welcome any input.

    i'd like to keep expanding the functionality of the site, offering additional free features like session-tracking and leaderboards. What do you all think?
     
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    Hello,

    I was looking for something similar with a remote GF who could control my chastity device.
    So far I came up with a metal chastitycage with the usual brass locks inside. But I noticed some of the locks are hollow. So you can push a small metal wire through the key opening and it comes out at the other end.
    When you use numbered seals ( one use only) it can be controllable from a distance if someone tampered with it.
    Maybe someone has a better idea?

    greets tom
     
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    And how can You use that when a GF lives in another country?
     
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    I don't understand you at all. If you have been caged and locked with your obvious consent... why do you have investigated to unlock? Don't touch the lock and it will never be away alone.
     
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    The thought of being chastised and no way of escaping without the superior knowing, is the thrill. In a remote F/d relationship a sealed chastity device is the most secure. I already found an example of sealing the chastity device with wire locks:
     
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    My Mistress uses the Mistress Lena Bluetooth Chastity Lock.

    The lock communicates with the sub's mobile phone (Android or Apple) using bluetooth but an unlock won't be approved unless the Keyholder authorises it. This can be from anywhere in the world.

    It works well, is reasonably priced and as shown in the photos allows a failsafe emergency release. Of course everything is logged.

    The lock is available with or without Keyholding services. We're both very happy with it.

    http://lenaloveslatex.com/product/mistress-lenas-bluetooth-chastity-lock/
     
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    Are those waterproof?
     
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    The best way !
     
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    I don't think so but I haven't tested it. My keys are inside a clear plastic tube and the lock secures the keys inside the tube. It's so frustrating. I can see the keys but not access them unless Mistress allows.

    The battery in the lock lasts for years.

    The same lock can be used for remote bondage too!
     
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    I agree with @Timbek, I think the numbered security seal is the best way to go.
    I have a plastic security tag just now which i have to send photos of when they are needed.
    It's very clunky and pinches my skin now and then.
    I just ordered some wire ones like those in the video. Hopefully they will be more comfy and undoubtedly more robust.

    IMG_3531.jpg
     
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    now not everyone uses cock cages ... and those bluetooth systems I don't really push ....
    but loose sails are used by customs and others who will be sure that no cheating ...
    I just bought 100 sails here in https://www.bednorz.com
     
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    I'm as big advocate of Chastikey.
    It's an app available on Android or Apple and requires you have a combination safe.

    There's a forum and a discord server which are very active with keyholders and it's all in good fun.
     
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    The realtor lock box concept is simple. The initial setting then resetting the combo is the tricky part. How to provide the combo to the holder or where to store it can be equally tricky. With enough practice and trust/faith in the process, it can be done. Enhancing how it all works can also be tricky or simple.
    I literally dreamt about a long-distance thing once when I was using a pad-lock securing cage.. Holder acquired a lock box and two new locks keyed differently, had the locks engraved with an image/her name and a different number on each, secured an emergency key in a tube, secured one key for each in the box, the first just in there, the second sealed in another 'emergency' tube. Then using tamper-evident tape or something else on the box itself. Then shipped the opened locks, the first emergency key and the primary key/second lock's emergency key secured in the box.. This allowed for a trust to be established, provided emergency keys and a second lock to be used after the first where it's second key could be retained and mailed later or the box could be returned for another round....
    As the lockee, clicking a lock shut without knowing the key would even work! Fun! Then, regardless of using the emergency key or getting the combo normally and using the normal key, there was a second lock to take it's place and start over, again, without even knowing if the key would work! Aside from using the emergency key, the first lock could only be opened once the combo was revealed... By the time the second lock opening would come around, there should be an established trust where we would be able to revisit other options like resecurring the key in the box without retaining the combo somehow or just resealing the key in the tube or even returning the lock box and having the holder set the combo and re-secure things...
    So, that's a way to get started where the keys aren't 'available' where lockee/holder are separated.
    The use of seals is a simple way to prove a cage hasn't been opened or a key hasn't been used, not just a way to secure a device.. Sometimes you just need to be creative in how they are applied and how to verify they are still intact.
    Here's a wonderful clip on using a seal!
    https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5aa2ae6f30df7
     
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    A simple method would be to have a transparent container that can be secured with a numbered tag. An easy container to adapt is a plastic drink bottle with a hole drilled through the cap and screw threads for the tag to go through.

    That will work whatever the locking type is for the chastity device.
    Lock the device, put the key in the container and seal it with the numbered tag.

    The distant keyholder can request verification by requesting a photo taken with another specific object in the picture (eg: a fork, or a particular book or toy, or the photo taken in a particular room or place), or alternatively it can be done in real time by Zoom or other video chat app.
     
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    #19 Kiesela, Oct 15, 2021
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    In the end we found this was the best and final solution for online keyholding.
    It was a bit bulky and took time to adjust to but it was much more robust than the plastic security tags.
    The wire was amazingly hard and took quite some bending.
    When I snugged it closed it had such an air of finality it made me tremble for a while. I was marked quite deeply by the whole experience.
    I'm not sure I would have felt the same way if I had sealed the keys into a container.


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    do you use that lock on your cage? Or on a lockbox holding your keys?
     
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    Where did you buy it?
     
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    I am using the same method of locking on request, and being completely (remotely) controllable. Locking my chastity device (which is fastened to a frenum piercing) with one of these metal tags. Locking, validation and unlocking has to be video recorded so that an attempted cheating would become visible
     
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