Girth and Diameter matters too

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  1. Joshers2005
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    I have been told that the girth and diameter of the device has an important role but not as important as the base ring. My girth is 4" and the diameter of my flaccid penis is 32 mm. As a grower, my penis will be 36mm in diameter at certain times and it can often shrink to 30mm during certain times.

    So the question is, I found 2 good devices with an acceptable cage length (55mm) to give chastity another try with patience. Both look good with similar prices.

    This one has a 30mm diameter with a plain circular ring (clamp ring w/padlock):

    https://www.amazon.com/Chastity-Dev...224-2/dp/B01MZ73MAB/ref=cm_cd_al_qh_dp_i?th=1

    This one has a 33mm diameter with a shaped ring (w/micro key lock):

    http://m.ebay.com/itm/US-SHIP-Latest-Design-MALE-Chastity-Devices-Stainless-Steel-Chastity-Cage-A274-1-/351904849362?var=&hash=item51ef29ddd2:m:mKa9QuAZ-Y-BJ7KEtMYcZCQ&_trkparms=pageci%3Ace0fa8a8-5806-11e7-9f3a-74dbd1800ae0%7Cparentrq%3Ad4b4157a15c0a884aa23e893ffff7292%7Ciid%3A8

    I feel the images are incorrect as the descriptions says 55mm cage twice.

    What do you think is better for a guy with a 4" girth and 32 mm diameter. Is 2 mm shorter bad (can be a tight squeeze to get in at times) or is 1 mm larger bad (can slip right in when flaccid)?

    Like I always say, I get pushed by different options from many different members:

    A. 33mm is a good compromise is my penis's flaccid diameter varies in between that size
    B. 33mm looks too tight as the pressure is causing it to slip down
    C. 33mm is way too large as it is causing it to slip down when it shrinks to 30mm in diameter when shriveled

    • And vise-vera with the cage that has a 30mm dimeter.

    No matter what, the girth of the cage must be smaller than the girth of your flaccid penis. That's girth...What about the diameter?

    All in all, I am okay with choosing either one, but I would like to hear a bit more feedback on this subject even if it is just 1-2 replies on this thread.

    Have a great day.
     
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    I think we get such different recommendations because everyone's penis is different.

    Since my flaccid penis is fairly large I would like a small cage to compress it so it is less noticeable under pants. But there are limits.

    I think that one factor in cage diameter is your personal tendency toward edema. If you develop edema you probably need a looser cage. I do. I would like a nice tight cage but that causes edema. So I have to choose a size that does not pinch too much. For me, well, that depends. I think that edema develops mainly in holes where skin can press out and fluid collect. A diameter that just matches my flaccid penis seems to work well. Of course, sometimes my penis is smaller diameter and the cage looks too big and sometimes it is large and bulging. But I don't get edema so that means this size is good.

    You'll get similar conflicting advice on length. Again, I think it depends on the cage and your penis. Some guys are happy in very short cages. Others want cages that exactly match the length of their penis.

    I think there is a relationship between length and diameter. I have only limited experience with this so it is mostly theory. My theory is that if you get a short cage that compresses the length of your penis you need a larger diameter to give the tissue space. If you don't have a larger diameter then the cage is pushed down your penis.

    One thing for sure (in my experience), when my erection pushes a short cage down my penis it pulls the balls with it and painfully tugs on my scrotum. That is something that I can do with out.

    In my experience, the thing that stops the travel and tugging is the cage grasping around the root of my penis. It will do that if, when the erection starts, the penis swells and presses against the cage, gripping the cage, before the cage can be pushed down the shaft. This was my experienc with the CMC contender. It was sized to the length of my flaccid penis and would contain my erection. It was quite comfortable. Where as the Holly Trainer was too short and too narrow and would not contain my erection at all. It pull the balls painfully.

    But then, could be the Contender worked for me because (on mine) the shaft was quite curved that that was a major factor in how it contained my penis. Further, I'm pierced and for the past year have only been wearing PA tube devices. Please feel free to dismiss my suggestions if they don't match your experience.

    Good thing that cages are so cheap these days. You have only spend $78, which is not that much. And I would say it has not been wasted because you got to try four different cages and discover what did not work.

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    I have no idea what you are talking about. Girth is diameter which is also width...three different terms for the same basic idea. Girth would be measured like circumference (tape measure all the way around penis) which is never a description of a cages measurements.

    Wider is always better than too narrow. Too narrow makes metal on skin contact constant, hard to clean and irritation or sores may happen right under your nose.

    Tightest base ring that is comfortable, only as long as your flacid penis at it's shortest, and wide enough for you to be able to clean yourself with a spray nozzle. That's it, a few mm will more than likely not be a big deal. Get used to wearing it for awhile and see if there is a measurement that needs to be increased or decreased.
     
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    Thank you for letting me know about this. I realize that the 30mm diameter is comfortable but the skin could get sore because of the fact that it is constantly touching. I am going back to a 33mm diamter cage like the ones I had before except I am going to find a 50-55mm cage.
     
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    Contrary to what porn wants you to believe, most women do not get vaginal orgasms. They need direct or indirect clitoral stimulation and that is when girth comes in. Long penises really do not do much other than present a mental stimulation due to the visual. Not a lot of nerve endings deep in a vagina and the average vagina is close to 6" long. So much misinformation in porn.
     
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    Very interesting information Vinny.

    It still does not answer my question that I posted on the other thread that is making me change my mind between a 30mm diameter, which I was sticking to for a while, and a 33mm diameter which is way too wide for me as I am under 32mm. I still want to try the 30mm diameter as it does not feel too narrow to me...but only if it is just one person's opinion that constant contact with stainless steel (not 24/7) will cause horrible infection and sores to any guy.
     
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    I meant to say I am under a bit under 31 in diameter. I thought .5 mm shorter in diameter was okay. Is it not? So 2mm wider is better Vinny? A bunch of people are telling me that the cage should have a diameter equal to the flaccid girth.

    This is very stressful because so many members are telling me opposite opinions...go tighter, go looser, get it equal. Ahhh!
    Who is right????
     
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    I've had several cages with different measurements. It all depends on what is comfortable in what position.

    One cage was really small and narrow... problem is it was crammed in so tight that there was no way to wash in the crevices because there was no room.

    Another cage was really small but wider. That was easier to clean but erections would happen behind the base ring causing balls to be pulled down.

    The next was a bit longer than my penis and not too narrow. It was easy to line up to pee, could only get partly plump...enough to keep it from having an erection behind the base ring but not enough to get fully hard. That's the one easiest to wear long term but the biggest and was kind of a pain as far as wearing.

    It's a crap shoot, it just takes trial and error.
     
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    Thank you boisub! That made me feel very comfortable and made me remember....you guys don't have my penis. Each penis is different. I am know exactly what you mean by those grooves in the skin. Nothing hurts but they go away. I honestly should have never made this thread as it made me even more freaked out. I am sticking with the 30mm as I truly remember that the three 33mm cages I tried were not snug at all. The only thing that was snug was the end bars. If I did not trashed the cages, I could slip it right on with only the head toughing the cage as the penis fits in. I am sorry to say this but Nicoftime made my hairs stand up in fright with his feedback.

    Yes it is. For a few hours, I thought you and Vinny were giving me medical facts and not your own experience or advice from past knowledge. My health comes first and I do not want to get a Chinese infection. You guys scared the dickens out of me. WHEW! :confused:

    I am fine with the 30mm as I am going to give it a try.
     
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    I was just giving some common sense advice to slow your whirlwind of purchases, measuring, and Nitpicking over millimeters. I said nothing of the harm of the Chinese devices, in fact I recommended them. All except that last ridiculous one that was super long, enclosed, and just had drainage holes. That one would be good for a couple hours max.

    Myself and others gave you sound advice and even support when you discussed quitting. Instead of being patient, wearing one for more than ten seconds before purchasing another to understand where the problems are to correct on your next purchase, you immediately bought another.

    You want a custom fit within millimeters, for an off the shelf device. You want it easy to urinate through, painless during erections, etc etc etc. Don't worry, I won't "scare the dickens out of you" anymore. The odds of you finding the perfect cage and actually wearing it for more than five minutes is so low you shouldn't be worried about anything.
     
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    That makes a difference.

    I am going to give it more than five minutes this time and I will let my body adjust. I have learned that no off-the-shelf device is perfect as there will be some issues. I just want to get one with the least issues, mostly my urethra being fit with the end bars the entire night through {which was successful with the 42mm cage besides the extra pressure with the long erections}.
     
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