Latowski.... still in business?

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    Me and my KH were looking into buying a Latowski belt as we found that I could simply pull out of a metal CD, we currently use the Gerecke Twister 2 but I can simply pull out so we're after a far more secure device. I read that the Latowski belt is the most secure but I've sent a couple of emails and had no reply so far, anyone had any dealings with Latowski recently or recommend any other really secure belts or devices that don't require a piercing?
     
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    Hello Frustrated1,

    yes it seems, that Latowski is really busy, as I know from a German forum, because all people who placed an order had to be patient ;)

    I wear a Neosteel "The Arch Masterpiece" - which is probably not as restrictive as the the Latowski, but on the other hand I think it is more easy to get it fit right and to wear it 24/7 (although I had NO Latowski, but just have taken into account all the feedback of Lato wearers from the forum).

    If you like, you can have a look right here:

    The Arch Masterpiece: http://www.neosteel.de/Nseparch.htm
    English Homepage: http://www.neosteel.de/Nsepmain.htm

    You'll also find some entries in the forum here if you search for "arch" ...

    Cheers
    Stefan
     
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    Thanks for that, good news to hear :)

    I'm a grower not a shower and when shrunk, I can pull my penis back out of the tube quite easily and pop it back in using the stocking method quite easily, we're attracted to the latowski since it covers the entire area so no chance of being able to touch it let alone pull it out. I'm not sure if the arch will give me similar problems to my existing CD?
     
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    For sure it depends how tight the Arch can be for you and that it fit's 100%. With my Arch I can not pull HIM out. And there are others with the Arch, who agree (German forum).
    But I know one who told me that he IS able to get HIM out - not sure if the measurement of his belt was ok ...

    I'm now the 7th day in the Arch (before I had a 1 day break ) and it feels great :rolleyes:

    Cheers
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    Just received my Latowski and NeoSteel Arch this week after being fitted over Thanksgiving... I know that Mario and Mona are in Egypt for the next week or so...
     
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    Given that I'm sitting down almost all day at work, it sound like it's goin to have to be neosteel so we're going to take a look into their belts but I don't want one with the cable going up the rear as I don't want using the toilet to be a messy business. If it wasn't for the sitting discomfort then we'd probably go with latowski.
     
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    I had some doubts with the business on the toilet too, but for me it works well, while using a paper towel to protect the cable and keep it clean.
    I just put it on "before" and remove it "afterwards" - so the cable is still clean :rolleyes: Using some wet wipes for the cleaning helps as well.
     
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    I think at the moment, we might not have the choice of these 2 manufacturers. I read a post in another thread that Mario Latowski was unlikely to reply to an email in English since he doesn't speak the language, I also don't speak a word of German. So Latowski, might be out of the picture permanently anyway, as for Neosteel, if they also don't speak English then we're gonna be going nowhere fast on this, leaving my only other choice I suppose to be Tollyboy since we're in the UK however I've read a lot of negative reviews of Tollyboy belts and only one positive review so far :(
     
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    If it helps I can translate some emails.
    The language shouldn´t be the problem.
     
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    Thanks for that :)

    Somewhere over the next few weeks, the 2 of us are going to have a look through what's available and take things from there.
    I say that as my KH is currently having internet access problems and we won't be able to reach Mario for a while if he's in Egypt anyway!
     
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    Yes Mario is German and speaks little English... When I visited them for a fitting, Mona did most of the talking. Mona will also respond to your emails and collaborate with Mario where needed.
     
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    I just received my Latowski and NeoSteel Arch just last week... The NeoSteel is better for sitting but I've found that leaning forward a little in the Latowski makes sitting much better. This was the position that Mona and Mario recommended during fitting.. The thing that's so powerful with the Latowski is everything is inaccessible. Balls and penis are fully enclosed. No access whatsoever! Incredible experience!

    The NeoSteel is minimalistic compared to the Latowski. Doesn't get in the way. That's just one of the reasons its such a great belt. It can be disassembled and lie flat...

    I washed my car and worked out in the NeoSteel. Lots of movement that would have been more awkward in the Latowski.

    I'm fortunate that Mistress wanted both... If I had to choose one belt, knowing what I know now, I'd choose the NeoSteel...


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    Hey Tom,

    I'm glad to hear that the Neosteel would be your choice....
    I visited my KH today with my netbook, I'd saved a couple of threads from this forums about the problems of belts, comparisons etc and she has agreed that we should go for the Neosteel also we're of the belief that we'll have to go with one of the models with the cable at the rear as it should be more comfortable fit?

    I'd read that you get different thickness of the cable so some are flexible, we haven't decided yet with one to get since we read about some people able to get orgasms in the Arch, also we haven't decided whether to use the measuring kit or fly over there, I guess it depends on how difficult it is getting from the UK to that area of Germany.

    I'd heard positive reviews of the she-male belt on the forum so that also may be a possibility, don't know for sure, got a lot of planning and reasearch to do!

    Thanks for your replies and advice all,

    Dave
     
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    I have the Arch and I have the Male System total. Either clips to the hipband. The Arch only comes with the 10mm (thicker) cable. The Arch and the Male System Total are both very secure. The Arch is what I'll be wearing long term due to comfort. SItting in the Male System Total is like sitting in the Latowski in that it makes the entire belt rigid. Also, sitting in the Male System Total for any length of time is very uncomfortable. What I like about the Male System Total is the ability to lock in dildos, which is the only reason that we purchased it...

    The 10mm cable is fairly rigid and can't be easily moved for defecation but it's designed to "be in the way" so to speak. You don't pull it aside, you just go! Not as messy as I had suspected. Some baby wipes and you're good. The Male System Total has a hole for defecation but I can't imagine that everything will clear the hole.

    In terms of fitting, if you can afford it and have the time, as others recommended to me, go to see Reinhold for a personal measurement.

    Tom
     
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    Tom,

    Thanks for your detailed explanation of the Arch. I've pretty narrowed that down to my #1 choice.

    A few questions:

    1. Does the Arch HAVE to have the thicker cable? If so why? Will they make it with a thinner one?

    2. Can you elaborate on the cable when you use the bathroom? Does is "split things down the center" so to speak? Also I picture if that happens OR it makes things go to one side or the other, that it could cause things to rub against you instead of making a "clean break". In which case I would think clean up would be harder because you don't exactly know where or how much got on your cheek area.

    3. Can you talk about the difference between the Arch and total belt in terms of the under crotch area...i.e. taint area? From pictures it looks like the regular belt points the penis straight down and then heads backwards causing things to be about an inch or two below the taint area. The Arch looks more compact like it's up against the taint and the tube points back instead? I would imagine this makes the Arch easier to sit down with but wondered, if the penis tube is too long will it feel like your squeezing something between your legs and have rubbing problems? Does Neosteel try to make the penis tube short enough so it doesn't extend too far under the taint area?

    P.S. Did you use the measuring kit or get fitted in person?

    Thanks again!
     
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    Tom,

    Thanks for your detailed explanation of the Arch. I've pretty narrowed that down to my #1 choice.

    A few questions:

    1. Does the Arch HAVE to have the thicker cable? If so why? Will they make it with a thinner one?

    --> Yes the Arch has the thicker cable... More secure... That's a question for Reinhold...

    2. Can you elaborate on the cable when you use the bathroom? Does is "split things down the center" so to speak? Also I picture if that happens OR it makes things go to one side or the other, that it could cause things to rub against you instead of making a "clean break". In which case I would think clean up would be harder because you don't exactly know where or how much got on your cheek area.

    --> The cable covers the anus so... I'm not looking back there so I can't tell you what it's doing... I just wipe well and follow up with baby wipes and I'm clean!

    3. Can you talk about the difference between the Arch and total belt in terms of the under crotch area...i.e. taint area? From pictures it looks like the regular belt points the penis straight down and then heads backwards causing things to be about an inch or two below the taint area. The Arch looks more compact like it's up against the taint and the tube points back instead? I would imagine this makes the Arch easier to sit down with but wondered, if the penis tube is too long will it feel like your squeezing something between your legs and have rubbing problems? Does Neosteel try to make the penis tube short enough so it doesn't extend too far under the taint area?

    --> System Total, your penis goes straight down... Arch is curved along your backside and pretty compact... I sit all day and it's as comfortable as steel can be. I typically forget I'm wearing it. The only rubbing are your testicles as they are on each side of the tube.

    P.S. Did you use the measuring kit or get fitted in person?

    --> Fitted in person at NeoSteel but Reinhold also uses the measuring kit...

    Thanks again!
     
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    Here's how the Arch splits the testicles...
     

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    Tholstro,

    My keyholder (wife) and I started chastity play many years ago, first with the CB range. Found out real soon that these plastic thingies were just kids play, not fit for long term, not secure enough, possibility for pull out, would just split etc etc. So we moved to the real stuff : steel belts.
    I had two Goethals and two years ago, much to our satisfaction upgraded (I consider it an upgrade) to a Neosteel Arc (the owner of Neosteel and his wife both speak perfect English by the way) The Neosteel is secure but also comfortable. If you ask me the Neosteel is the ideal middle way between comfort and security.

    I'm happy to read that you also have a Latowski. KH and I were thinking about acquiring one also. I can wear the Neosteel 24/7 for several months (just out for cleaning) but still have an issue with the possibility to reach an orgasm either by firmly holding the tube and "dry humping" it or by holding a strong vibrator against the tube. Although the word orgasm is maybe not the exact term, as it’s impossible to get an erection, but I can work up to a more or less pleasurable ejaculation. And if you hadn't had sexual satisfaction for over two months...my KH can make me feel dizzy with pleasure just by touching my nipples!

    We hope that these ejaculations would be more difficult (or impossible altogether) with the Latowski. There is no direct access to the genital area whatsoever, the penis is completely embedded in thick silicon rubber and a layer of stainless steel.
    We were thinking along the lines of wearing the Neosteel during the day to the office etc where the chances of me being horny enough to try and ejaculate are next to nothing (although after a few months of chastity you can get pretty desperate and desperate people…yeah they do desperate things ;-) and in the evening at home change into the Latowski for enhanced security when I am more likely to be aroused (access to my SM playthings, sissy clothing, internet porn, teasing by my mistress, etc…) and when comfort and discretion etc is less of an issue.

    As the owner of a Latowki do you think that realistic or would it be a waste of our money ?

    TKS for your imput, also if someone else who is wearing a Latowski or a KH having a sub locked into a Latowski wants to give his/her opinion,PLS do.

    Regards

    Bathingcaplovers
     
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    I can't imagine reaching orgasm in the Latowski... Since your penis and balls are separated and fully encased in silicone there's little chance that a vibration from a vibrator will be able to transfer much energy.

    I can relate to how easily stimulated one is when locked up for some time. I could reach orgasm in a CB6000 with only a QTip. How sad is that! ;)

    I love both my NeoSteel and Latowski for different reasons. The Latowski organ chamber is absolutely ingenious and very comfortable. Mistress made me sleep in it last night and it was very comfortable. Due to the nature of the design sitting on hard surfaces is out of the question. I can however sit in my office chair all day in it.

    If you do get a Latowski I also recommend getting the Innotek addition. It snaps in the front of the silicone chamber and then is all locked in. Mistress then has what she calls her "button", the transmitter. She can arouse me on levels 2-4 or punish me on levels 5-8. The current goes directly to the penis. It's a great addition.

    Your situation is similar to mine. When I'm traveling during the week, I take the NeoSteel with me. It disassembles and can be packed. If I'm working from home or on the weekends, Mistress will put me in the Lawtowski.

    Having both is awesome...

    All the best!

    Tom
     
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    TKS a lot Tholstro, very helpful, we appreciate. Guess I'm gonna be visiting Germany soon then ;) Is there a way to set up an appointment by email ? Have tried twice already but no reply. Now I read here that he's not responding to emails in English...the guy's business must be purring along nicely if he can afford to snub any client who doesn't fluently speak and write Goethe's language.
     
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    Hello Everyone

    I am new to this forum and stumbled across it searching for information on the Latowski belt.
    I have owned a few full steel belts namely My-Steel which I adore but because of my poor measurement taking they dont sit quite right and become uncomfortable after a while.

    This time I am going for the Latowski. Me and my KH are travelling over to have measurements taken later this month. I can confirm that emails have been replied to quickly in my case.
    I am very interested to hear peoples experiences with this belt as I am getting more and more excited.
    I have also considered the Innotek device to go with the belt as I feel this will take it to a whole other level yet again! Not sure how long it lasts before charging is needed though.

    The forum looks great and im enjoying reading peoples experiences.

    Thanks everyone!
     
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    I'm sitting in my Latowski as we speak and have the Innotek remote control device installed as well. Sitting is only a problem if you're sitting on a hard surface. I have a Herman Miller Aeron office chair that seems to properly support the crotch area of the belt. I can do a 14 hour day with no problem. Sitting on padded restaurant chairs is OK. Sitting on anything hard is miserable.

    Peeing is a unique experience as the fluid is channeled thru the chamber out a hole in the bottom. You can rinse the chamber with the provided syringe. Things stay very clean.

    The Innotek is *very* effective! Mistress can alert me for Her needs at a level 3 (1-10). Level 4 is uncomfortable. Level 5 and 6 are painful. And I've not experienced anything above that. The battery for the receiver and the remote last more than a day. I'm let out at times for bed and we'll put the receiver back on the charger. The receiver snaps into the silicone chamber and once installed into the belt is completely innaccessible. It's an ingenious design. The pulse is directly on the shaft of the penis and it's intense! Mistress has all the power so to speak!

    All the best!

    Tom
     
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    I have been to this thread quite a few times, but now I registered and decided to post my impressions about the Latowski and bring the thread back to life after three years !

    They to take a while to reply e-mails, and sometimes they do miss them, as they are overwhelmed by information requests. I decided to call them right after the e-mail, then. It worked just fine.

    I have been there, taken my measures and been waiting for about six weeks, so far. While I was there, Mona told me all there is to know, Mario was very thorough while taking measurements, and performing tests; and I did try a measurement model. It feels great. I thought my movements would be more impaired, but I think I can perform most of my routine tasks without major problems - of course, any CB is not meant to prevent you from doing things, but hey they keep reminding you that they are there. Sitting does require proper training, but I think it can be achieved.

    About security: with the test prototype on, I managed to (barely) touch the penis, which was pretty flaccid because of the cold. Theoretically, if I laid down on the floor and the penis was very flaccid, I could have pulled it out (I can grow from 3cm to 18cm in less than a minute), with some difficulty, but I would never be able to put it back into the tube again. Anyway, I informed this particular issue and (they suggested this test) they said they have bumped into that before and solved the problem with extra silicone, a thicker layer at the pubis region. I believe it's the most secure CB there is - at least the most secure I have ever tried, anda I have tried many. And it's amazingly beautiful, a work of art, with no match that I know.

    I got the electric stuff too. Tested it on my hand and thigh. I can cope pretty well with level 1 (out of 13, I guess). Levels 2 and 3 are... challenging, to say the least. I think I'll become pretty obedient, because the idea of getting a level 2 or 3 shock on my dick is pretty scary, to say the least. But that's the point in submitting yourself, isn't it? They now use PetSafe technology, and the battery seems to last 60 hours. I tested it - not thoroughly, though - and it lasted about a week, in standby. Strange, but good, because keeping charging it all the time would be too much of a work. Anyway, submitting myself, by my own free will, to such device is OK. But submitting dogs to it is at least cruel.

    Just received an e-mail informing it's almost ready - which means that in a few weeks I'll have the very first Latowski CB in my country (they told me so), most likely in the entire continent, possibly in the whole hemisphere (!) - wow, this just crossed my mind.

    Tell you about the impressions when I get it, hopefully before finishing this business trip.
     
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    @JLA As we have no idea where you are from, it's rather difficult to even ponder the question.
     
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    Brazil. But it's not important, I just wondered.
     
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